Gplayerzzz
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Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
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Marshall_Abuser
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
This pickup feels as if the bass was separated from the treble. The attack and initial punch of the notes is very clear and bright, while the notes themselves are very bassy and thick. To me the Invader sounds and feels like a two-way speaker, with that "separation" between the bass and highs. Hence, the bass will sound a bit loose, but the attack will be clear and tight. Output is hot, but not overly so, I'd just say "hot" but not "incredibly hot".
The Invader is a good pickup IMO, but not good enough for me to use one.
This pickup feels as if the bass was separated from the treble. The attack and initial punch of the notes is very clear and bright, while the notes themselves are very bassy and thick. To me the Invader sounds and feels like a two-way speaker, with that "separation" between the bass and highs. Hence, the bass will sound a bit loose, but the attack will be clear and tight. Output is hot, but not overly so, I'd just say "hot" but not "incredibly hot".
The Invader is a good pickup IMO, but not good enough for me to use one.
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theodie
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Dark, super hot, not much clarity. Great metal rhythm pickup for standard tunings. Down tuned, it muds out horribly. Lead work, not enough clarity IMO. Dont put it in a shorter scale guitar, Stick to 25.5 scale.
OH, it is a HUGE sounding pickup!
For standard tuned Metal rhythms it is a seriously good choice.
Dark, super hot, not much clarity. Great metal rhythm pickup for standard tunings. Down tuned, it muds out horribly. Lead work, not enough clarity IMO. Dont put it in a shorter scale guitar, Stick to 25.5 scale.
OH, it is a HUGE sounding pickup!
For standard tuned Metal rhythms it is a seriously good choice.
buckethead
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
all i know is that you get weird noises when you use any type of harmonics.
too dark over all for my taste. I only played them on a tom deluge giutar.
all i know is that you get weird noises when you use any type of harmonics.
too dark over all for my taste. I only played them on a tom deluge giutar.
jerryjg
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
Artist: Will Adler
Band: Lamb of God
Instrument: Framus
Pickups: SH-8b, LW-HMET
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( what more do you neeed to know? It DON"T get any heaveier than that. Best massive smashing rythym attack Ive heard .) For lead, Id maybe start thinking of something different for more defintion.
Artist: Will Adler
Band: Lamb of God
Instrument: Framus
Pickups: SH-8b, LW-HMET
Next
( what more do you neeed to know? It DON"T get any heaveier than that. Best massive smashing rythym attack Ive heard .) For lead, Id maybe start thinking of something different for more defintion.
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daemon barbeque
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
It needs alder/maple/wene bodied guitars to cut right.
It's perfect with light strings and can be a healing salve for Floyd thinness.
But once you get basswood/rosewood combination ,or Mahogany with rosewood ,it's unbearable.
If you want to use one you have to have
1) Alder/Maple/wenge bodied guitar with a maple or ebony board
2)A trem to cut some bottom
3)1 MegOhm Pot's
4)A tight bottomed amp.
5)And light gauges.
When it's done ,it plays the game well!
It needs alder/maple/wene bodied guitars to cut right.
It's perfect with light strings and can be a healing salve for Floyd thinness.
But once you get basswood/rosewood combination ,or Mahogany with rosewood ,it's unbearable.
If you want to use one you have to have
1) Alder/Maple/wenge bodied guitar with a maple or ebony board
2)A trem to cut some bottom
3)1 MegOhm Pot's
4)A tight bottomed amp.
5)And light gauges.
When it's done ,it plays the game well!
super rad stuff
Skaforlifeologist
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my friend played my other friend's(i kno, right?) ibanez rg series with an invader in the bridge through my rig a year ago(just straight into a peavey windsor stack, stock). was real muddd. very low clarity, but split was real punchy without being too tight. split sounds cool on it, but too much boom in full humbucker imo.
my friend played my other friend's(i kno, right?) ibanez rg series with an invader in the bridge through my rig a year ago(just straight into a peavey windsor stack, stock). was real muddd. very low clarity, but split was real punchy without being too tight. split sounds cool on it, but too much boom in full humbucker imo.
Diocletian
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Yes it does.
Nile use Invaders too. :1:
I liked mine for heavy rythm work. If you want to do early Metallica/Slayer like riffage, the Invader is just perfect. But I hated it for leads. While a very hot pickup, it doesn't seem to pick up harmonics and stuff like other pickups.
Yes it does.
Nile use Invaders too. :1:
I liked mine for heavy rythm work. If you want to do early Metallica/Slayer like riffage, the Invader is just perfect. But I hated it for leads. While a very hot pickup, it doesn't seem to pick up harmonics and stuff like other pickups.
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SlowGroove
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
The Tele that i want come stock with it !
Does that count any any usefull info ?
James
The Tele that i want come stock with it !
Does that count any any usefull info ?
James
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theodie
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Laughing Kookaburra
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Re: Tell me everything about the Duncan Invader.
I used one about 20 yrs ago in a Strat. Alder body, rosewood neck. Plugged into a JCM 800 (earlier model), into a 4x12 loaded w/Celestion 65 watt spkrs (GM 65s?).
I used it for hard rock and punk rock. That rig had punch and clarity for the styles of music I played. I had it set up for parallel and split operation. The split was especially effective if I really needed to clean things up (which was rare in those days). Everything was standard tuning, w/the exception of a rare open D or open E tuning.
I don't use an Invader anymore, only because my taste in playing has changed. However, it was killer for what I was playing then.
I used one about 20 yrs ago in a Strat. Alder body, rosewood neck. Plugged into a JCM 800 (earlier model), into a 4x12 loaded w/Celestion 65 watt spkrs (GM 65s?).
I used it for hard rock and punk rock. That rig had punch and clarity for the styles of music I played. I had it set up for parallel and split operation. The split was especially effective if I really needed to clean things up (which was rare in those days). Everything was standard tuning, w/the exception of a rare open D or open E tuning.
I don't use an Invader anymore, only because my taste in playing has changed. However, it was killer for what I was playing then.
Gamera
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Back in the 80's when I was looking to customizes my SSS guitar and drop in a full-sized humbucker I tried several pickups. I was young, dumb, and desperately wanted that elusive metal chunk and I thought I could get it from a pickup. I tried a JB and a couple others before settling on the Invader. It was big, fat, chunky, and just what I wanted when I was 17.
I've since learned I was young and dumb. The pickup lacks clarity and makes soloing very difficult. The Invader seems to have a difficult time being heard in a mix too. I haven't replaced it though. It's still in that guitar and still is occasionally called on to deliver some massive chunka, chunka riffs and power chords. Even though it's kind of a 1-trick pony it'll always have a warm place in my heart. I won't get rid of it.
Back in the 80's when I was looking to customizes my SSS guitar and drop in a full-sized humbucker I tried several pickups. I was young, dumb, and desperately wanted that elusive metal chunk and I thought I could get it from a pickup. I tried a JB and a couple others before settling on the Invader. It was big, fat, chunky, and just what I wanted when I was 17.
I've since learned I was young and dumb. The pickup lacks clarity and makes soloing very difficult. The Invader seems to have a difficult time being heard in a mix too. I haven't replaced it though. It's still in that guitar and still is occasionally called on to deliver some massive chunka, chunka riffs and power chords. Even though it's kind of a 1-trick pony it'll always have a warm place in my heart. I won't get rid of it.
Sludgenutz
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I played a weird lower cost Fender Tele with an aftermarket Invader. I don't know what it was...but it was an inexpensive glued neck (!) single pickup model, with a racing stripe up the middle of the body. It sounded great with the Invader! There was none of the overly muddy bog tone I've heard about this pickup. All guitars are different though, of course. I would call the combo a "stoner metal" machine, rather than a classic stoner guitar with sweeter pickups. I'll bet the Fender choice of body/neck wood (not mahogany) was key in giving the the Invader the tonewise "lift".
I played a weird lower cost Fender Tele with an aftermarket Invader. I don't know what it was...but it was an inexpensive glued neck (!) single pickup model, with a racing stripe up the middle of the body. It sounded great with the Invader! There was none of the overly muddy bog tone I've heard about this pickup. All guitars are different though, of course. I would call the combo a "stoner metal" machine, rather than a classic stoner guitar with sweeter pickups. I'll bet the Fender choice of body/neck wood (not mahogany) was key in giving the the Invader the tonewise "lift".
Petrovsk Mizinski
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I played a friend's guitar with an Invader last night and he definitely had the pickup in it's most appropriate guitar body wood type.
Nice for metal rhythms, even tuned to D standard, it was coping well.
But I'm a 'lead' guy as such, so I wouldn't be using one as my main pickup, but it wasn't exactly a horrible neck pickup either.
I played a friend's guitar with an Invader last night and he definitely had the pickup in it's most appropriate guitar body wood type.
Nice for metal rhythms, even tuned to D standard, it was coping well.
But I'm a 'lead' guy as such, so I wouldn't be using one as my main pickup, but it wasn't exactly a horrible neck pickup either.
Holy Diver
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Vivian Campbell used the Invader on the Last in Line album and tour, but he played so loud and with so much power that it ripped on leads. The album does not sound too bad, either. I would use a DD myself, like Lynch, but I do love Vivian.
Vivian Campbell used the Invader on the Last in Line album and tour, but he played so loud and with so much power that it ripped on leads. The album does not sound too bad, either. I would use a DD myself, like Lynch, but I do love Vivian.
satindollband
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um not necesarrily, i think the invader sounds a HELL LOT better in a mahogony/maple neck or mahogony neck/ ebony fingerboard than alder any day.(I would know i have one in my white gibson explorer) It sound a lot more tighter, more headroom and less crispier which is what i prefer, i don't scoop mids, infact my mids are always more than half with the bass all the way and the treble at 7.5 on my mesa dual rectifier modded with JJ KT88/KT66 and JJ ECC83s. Now if you tune it lower than drop c, then YES it becomes a HUGE mess(as most pickups would). But it also depends on what strings you use. I use ernie balls 9-42 and 10-52 and 11-48 tuned from drop d to drop c and when combined with my ts808 or GT-OD, it sounds very close to an active pickup. I can record a clip if anyone is interested. if your someone who likes scooped mids and standard tuning or if you want to tune REAL low with this pickup(i hate standard tuning for metal and scooped mids) then alder/ebony will be a better choice. Another thing is your setup and EQ. I have an invader and i can even get sweet tones from it. It gives off VERY sweet cleans when coil tapped. If you wanna know what i play i play groove metal, melodeath, death metal, post-hardcore, some metalcore, black metal, blues, alternative, classic rock, and jazz. The pickup does it all for me atleast.
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astrozombie
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I'm sick and tired of everyone here bashing the Invader. lol
I have one in a stratocaster, it IS bassy but not MUDDY if you EQ right.
also, raising the bass side polepieces a bit works magic.
I'm sick and tired of everyone here bashing the Invader. lol
I have one in a stratocaster, it IS bassy but not MUDDY if you EQ right.
also, raising the bass side polepieces a bit works magic.
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