Tell Me MIDI Info!

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And crap! I'm sorry to hear that Lake Butler went out of business, well it's like I tell all my friends, if I like something, they stop making it! ... No lie!
 
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Robert S. said:
Besides, I'm a bit of a gear snob as well as someone who has had less than stellar results with Berringer products.

Behringer (now I can't remember how to spell it), does some good stuff as far as studio use, live stuff I don't know about, you ought to check out some of Yamahas top stuff, pricey indeed, but really good. It's just that no one ever mentions their studio stuff. Built very well also.

If I need a program run dry I just create a dry patch into the effects and save it to a program but my "dry" patch actually consists of a little reverb and slap with a very light detune. That creates a very spacious stereo image without sounding "effected".
Detuning is one of the coolest little ways of getting a chorus that *doesn't get lost*, very cool.
Going back to controller useage, one of the things i used to like to do was use banks 10,20 30,&40, then I'd say 10 will be cleans, 20, crunch/edge stuff, 30 full overdrive/distortion stuff, and 40 for lead stuff (whether claen distorted or what have you). Then all the 0 would match those sounds, all the 1s would be another set of clean, crunch, distortion, lead, 2s another set, and so forth. Made it real easy to switch between guitars, or just different settings on one. I totally understand to going super complicated at first, but sooner or later you realize that all that tweaking works best in customizing a few multi purpose sounds, and then like you say, having a few things up your sleeve.
One cool use for all the programs is to have style banks, say you do a church band thing, okay, you got all your settings for that stored, then you do a blues or country thing, okay, you got those stored, then maybe for fun you roak out with some old buds once a month at a local watering hole, okay you got those stored, plus you got left over patches for anything else that comes up, being digital instead of hardware if you don't use something for a while it isn't like it's being wasted, unlike say two pedals that only get used for something every 8 months, or whatever.
 
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One of the main reasons I picked the Behringer (yes, Grandor, it will do what you said) was that it is big and solid- and those 2 exp pedals!! But really, the biggest reason is the ability to send Note-on messages. These are messages a keyboard uses to play notes, and I use these for several things. I use it in front of a $12k guitar/guitar synth/looping rig.
If it works well, I use it- no matter where it was made, or by who.
They can be used for controlling the front panel of my Oberheim Echoplex as well as tap-tempo in many devices. And the best part- I can play bass with my feet!! It is very cool, when the bassist is playing some high octave solo, to hit low low Minimoog notes underneath that- of course it has to be Midi'd to a channel on the synth.
 
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Mincer said:
One of the main reasons I picked the Behringer (yes, Grandor, it will do what you said) was that it is big and solid- and those 2 exp pedals!! But really, the biggest reason is the ability to send Note-on messages. These are messages a keyboard uses to play notes, and I use these for several things. I use it in front of a $12k guitar/guitar synth/looping rig.
If it works well, I use it- no matter where it was made, or by who.
They can be used for controlling the front panel of my Oberheim Echoplex as well as tap-tempo in many devices. And the best part- I can play bass with my feet!! It is very cool, when the bassist is playing some high octave solo, to hit low low Minimoog notes underneath that- of course it has to be Midi'd to a channel on the synth.

Speaking of which, Elka used to make a nice 1.5 octave midi bass pedals, as i recall they were just a controller for whatever module or synth you had around. Anybody know what is current on the market in that respect?
 
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Roland has them: the model number is PK-something. They are bass pedals with an extra row of program change buttons. But they are big and heavy, which is why I picked the Behringer.
 
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Mincer said:
Roland has them: the model number is PK-something. They are bass pedals with an extra row of program change buttons. But they are big and heavy, which is why I picked the Behringer.

Cool Thanks, the old Taurus units weren't light from what I've heard. They made two versions of those, one had storeable presets (or at least presets), and the other didn't, which meant you had to physically change the settings between songs or sets. I need to look back into bass pedals again ... Do you know if the Roland (or Behringer) can be program say for diatonic chords, so you can play chordal synth pads behind your stuff. Forgive this if it's a dumb question, but my experience with them is limited, and then it was only the standard monophonic (although layered) bass note. Thanks.
 
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I think i might buy an fcb1010 off a friend of mine who is upgrading , cause he just got a line6 flextone III, and no longer needs the behringer...
 
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Kent S. said:
Cool Thanks, the old Tarus units weren't light from what I've heard. They made two versions of those, one had storeable presets (or at least presets), and the other didn't, which meant you had to physically change the settings between songs or sets. I need to look back into bass pedals again ... Do you know if the Roland (or Behringer) can be program say for diatonic chords, so you can play chordal synth pads behind your stuff. Forgive this if it's a dumb question, but my experience with them is limited, and then it was only the standard monophonic (although layered) bass note. Thanks.

No, it will only let you pick 1 note. But you could always program your synth to play a chord when you trigger 1 note. The old Digitech PMC-10 (1991?) could be programmed to play complex chords, and it worked well- however the unit itself was cheaply made.
 
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Both Kent and Mincer are correct -- the Taurus pedal board weighs a TON!!

I usually set up my FC-200 for playing notes (the pedals act as notes on a keyboard, which I put shiny nylon letters on so I can see 'em on a dark stage) and set my GR-30 to play either an Oberheim or Moog patch, and it works perfectly for that purpose! I've also used it to play pads, and since the GR-30 allows each patch to have 2 voices, I just tune them to taste: a 5th, 3rd, 8ve, etc, to fill out the sound.
 
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