Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

[GLJazz]

I've been playing my Triple and Orange Rocker 30 without any effects for a few months now. It's been simple and convenient gear wise - not to mention it made my playing a bit more "honest".

Lately I've been feeling a little bored with my playing until the other day when I was messing around with buddy's blues deluxe. Aside from being a great little amp to start with it turns out that the reverb really made a big difference in rounding out the sound.

So that got me poking around the pedal market and feeling completely overwhelmed. It seems like any good 'verb is going to run me $70-100 and most "good" pedals fall in that bracket as well.

That got me seriously considering the M9/M13 from Line6 (isn't that still a dirty word?) since it seems like these things have quite a following these days. Part of me REALLY doesn't want digital modeling multiFX anything but when I'm seeing these used at around $300 it seems like a darn good option to at least satisfy my occasional desire for effects. I demo'd one through a Budda Stringmaster and a Mesa F100 and wasn't blown away but pleasantly surprised. This is my usual reaction to effects, so taken with a grain of salt.

Thus far my list of (-) consists of:

-No actual wah
-Looper doesn't auto stitch (requires some sense of timing )
-$300 seems like a good deal now, but this time next year will it be $60 when the next modeler comes out
-Digital modeling coupled with t00bz. I hear the ladies don't like digital...
- So many settings, I wish there was just one reverb, delay, etc. Who can really hear the difference between "'66 reverb" and "full reverb" etc.
-Overkill?

(+)

-Pretty colors
-Kajillion options, lets me at least mess with a sound before i feel like i need to buy a pedal. This one goes both ways I guess.
Lots of pedals for ~ price of three.
-Looper

So I dunno, Tell me I can get what i really need for less and not have to do digital or something! Maybe I should just get a fender combo

:friday:

GL

 

[everdrone]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

if ur stoked on reverb then get a reverb! digital is fine for delays and tuners, otherwise I recommend analog. I tried it and hated digital cause I am really into tube tone/non digital, but to each his own...

 

[FretFire]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

I have and use an M9, but I seem to be using it for less and less stuff. Mostly just for reverb, tuner, noise gate, and a couple of modulations. I was using it for delay, but prefer my DD-20 now, and used some OD models but much prefer my standalone pedals for dirt. I am completely happy with it as I'm currently using it, though.

 

[Quencho092]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

get an alesis picoverb. I like the notion of an honest rig, I play into a bass amp with just a touch of reverb from this unit and the sound is balanced and full. Under 100 bucks, solid as a little tank.

 

[GLJazz]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Ahh... Good to hear. FretFire I was worried about that, just need to suppress the "i might need that" urge and just fix things that need fixing.

Everdrone - Simply Yes

Quencho, I'll check it out thanks!

I'm sure there's a ton of "what reverb should I get" threads so time to do a little searching :thumbsup

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Spring reverb units can be relatively simply built if you cannot afford a bona-fide Fender Reverb unit.

This might help:

Schematic of early model Fender reverb: http://acruhl.freeshell.org/mga/schematics/amps/rev.jpg

'63 Reissue service manual: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...DsijNtszOZipUb_pQ&sig2=2BTn6PURMHevEhQL8ckueA

But the Fender Reverb was relatively full featured for the time. You can build a more simple one, or you can get "off-brand" reverb units from the '60's. By buddy has a St. George that is pretty cool, albeit quite low-end.

 

[GLJazz]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Spring reverb units can be relatively simply built if you cannot afford a bona-fide Fender Reverb unit.

This might help:

Schematic of early model Fender reverb: http://acruhl.freeshell.org/mga/schematics/amps/rev.jpg

'63 Reissue service manual: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...DsijNtszOZipUb_pQ&sig2=2BTn6PURMHevEhQL8ckueA

But the Fender Reverb was relatively full featured for the time. You can build a more simple one, or you can get "off-brand" reverb units from the '60's. By buddy has a St. George that is pretty cool, albeit quite low-end.

That sounds very cool, Expensive though? Still have to find a spring tank too, correct?

 

[Tor]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Be aware of your band-situation.. Reverb does pretty up the sound when you're playing alone, but if you play with keys and another guitarist, you tend to drown out much of your own sound with reverb. I use my reverb pedal for swells or if I know that there is sonic space for a wet guitar tone.

 

[crusty philtrum]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Maybe I should just get a fender combo

Yup.

 

[metalmachine]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Talk you out of it? Ok. Quit being a sissyfied girly man and go learn some new techniques on guitar when you get bored. Or played unplugged for 2 weeks then come back too it.

 

[jimman]

Re: Tempted to go over to the "dark side"... Talk me out of it!

Look around for a TC Electronics G Major used. Good unit that can be found for pretty cheap. You will need a MIDI for it though, but Behringer actually makes one that isnt bad and can be found pretty cheap (only decent product I have found from them).