"That amp is tube - I can tell, it cuts through!"

[Aceman]

Re: "That amp is tube - I can tell, it cuts through!"

Hey - I was smoking hot the first set. By the second set I was wore out. we made some PA adjustments then, and unfortunately a lot didn't get to hear the first set amaze balls playing!

That said we are learning to use the PA better each gig...

 

[El Dunco]

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I've been complimented on my live tone from a Digitech unit run straight to the PA. I chalk it up to that I know how to use my gear.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

Re: "That amp is tube - I can tell, it cuts through!"

By the second set I was wore out. we made some PA adjustments then, and unfortunately a lot didn't get to hear the first set amaze balls playing!

That said we are learning to use the PA better each gig...

Be careful, adjusting a PA after your ears are shot can make it sound worse alot of the time!

 

[Securb]

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I had some guys in my practice space years ago ask me if I got a new Marshall. I did get a new amp but their jaws dropped when I told them it was a JC 120. Of course they werre digging the tone until they found out it was solid state.

 

[Blille]

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I had some guys in my practice space years ago ask me if I got a new Marshall. I did get a new amp but their jaws dropped when I told them it was a JC 120. Of course they werre digging the tone until they found out it was solid state.

A JC120 is a pretty awesome amp imho.


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[Coma]

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Yeah, JC120 is pretty legendary.

 

[James Rock]

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I think it depends on the processor more then how it works. For example I can often hear people using BOSS GT8 and similar because it has this kind of boss processed thing going on like the dynamics are super contained like the guitar is inside a tube or something and usually it can be loud but have little impact compared to a nice cleanish tube amp with a boost. That said Ive heard Mesa Rectifiers sound a bit like that esepcially when they cant turn up the master volume or have scooped the mids. So its partially gear partially users (easier to mess up a tone with heaps of effects and parameter then a good tube amp with volume and tone controls...). But a loud amp (either tube, SS or hybrid) generally has that punch.

 

[Parked]

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"It's all in the fingers man!"

 

[El Dunco]

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I think it depends on the processor more then how it works. For example I can often hear people using BOSS GT8 and similar because it has this kind of boss processed thing going on like the dynamics are super contained like the guitar is inside a tube or something and usually it can be loud but have little impact compared to a nice cleanish tube amp with a boost. That said Ive heard Mesa Rectifiers sound a bit like that esepcially when they cant turn up the master volume or have scooped the mids. So its partially gear partially users (easier to mess up a tone with heaps of effects and parameter then a good tube amp with volume and tone controls...). But a loud amp (either tube, SS or hybrid) generally has that punch.

Little do they know, the mid knob on the dual rectifier provides it's boldness, growl, attack and edge. Less mids will soften up the sound which might be preferable for leads, but it will take away the harder attack you would want for hard rock and metal rhythm guitar. You can pretty much max that knob out or close to, you hit a big chord and it sounds absolutely massive. The 3 band on a dual rectifier isn't quite the same as other 3 band eqs on most amps. They affect each other directly. You could have the treble on zero yet still have plenty of treble in the sound.

Point is, yeah. Don't scoop your damn rectifier, it doesn't sound good!

 

[MetalManiac]

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Point is, yeah. Don't scoop your damn rectifier, it doesn't sound good!

I thought Metallica had the smiley face EQ (scooped) on their Dual Rectifiers ? I scoop the mids totally out of my 6505.

 

[dystrust]

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I thought Metallica had the smiley face EQ (scooped) on their Dual Rectifiers ?

They used the 'California Smile' EQ on their Mark IIC+'s; if you've ever played one, it isn't hard to understand why.

Those early Mark amps are designed for a Sanata-esque singing lead tone and they really deliver. The rotary tone stack is located pre-gain, and to get that tone you'd put the bass on about 3, the mid on 5-7, and the treble likewise on 5-7. It sounds great for playing lead, but turns into a midrangey, muddy mess when you try to chug on a few chords. The Mark's graphic EQ is post-gain, so you can scoop some of the excess mid there to alleviate the mud. When John Petrucci used to use one of those amps, he'd switch between rhythm and lead sounds by switching the graphic EQ on and off.

 

[Lucy Diamond]

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Eq'ing......Yeah...I guess EQ isn't a thing.

:sad:

I guess it doesn't matter how you set your amp. As long as it has tubes, It'll cut.

I love those people. Tell that sh!t to Dimebag.

I remember changing a string at an audition in a complete sh!thole of a rehearsal space and the singer telling ME about what the bridge of the guitar does.

:sad:

 

[El Dunco]

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I thought Metallica had the smiley face EQ (scooped) on their Dual Rectifiers ? I scoop the mids totally out of my 6505.

As someone already mentioned, they smiley-faced their Mark series Mesas back in the day. The 3 band on your Peavey doesn't work the same way the 3 band on a Dual Rec works and I would be very surprised if Metallica used a very low setting on the mid range knob on their DRs. If that knob is too low, the sound will disappear.

 

[Securb]

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Can we all agree there is nothing worse than some bonehead asking you if you are playing a tube amp that doesn't play? I hate talking to some newb or non-guitarist that knows just enough information to annoy you. Like the kid in the music store last week that told me all new Les Pauls have Burstbuckers and they sound like crap. For the record I was asking the salesman not him about the pickups.

 

[beaubrummels]

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Can we all agree there is nothing worse than some bonehead asking you if you are playing a tube amp that doesn't play? I hate talking to some newb or non-guitarist that knows just enough information to annoy you. Like the kid in the music store last week that told me all new Les Pauls have Burstbuckers and they sound like crap. For the record I was asking the salesman not him about the pickups.

How many of us just on this forum started out being 'that guy'? :butkick:
(Not you, Securb, but, you know...)

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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Thanks for the warning about the Burstbuckers. Wouldn't want to run into that.

 

[Securb]

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How many of us just on this forum started out being 'that guy'? :butkick:
(Not you, Securb, but, you know...)

When I was a noob, I was smart enough to listen, ask questions and be happy to be around more experienced musicians. I still am : )

 

[El Dunco]

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Can we all agree there is nothing worse than some bonehead asking you if you are playing a tube amp that doesn't play? I hate talking to some newb or non-guitarist that knows just enough information to annoy you. Like the kid in the music store last week that told me all new Les Pauls have Burstbuckers and they sound like crap. For the record I was asking the salesman not him about the pickups.

Are those Zakk Wylde distortion strings?

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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When I was starting out, I had someone tell me that you can't play power chords through a small practice amp (read: beginner 8" combo) because "you'd blow it up".

I had someone else tell me that playing power chords would ruin a guitar, and that you shouldn't do it unless you considered the guitar disposable.

And I had a know-it-all relative insist that the trem was properly called the "yoke".

 

[PFDarkside]

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Are those Zakk Wylde distortion strings?

Yep, it's how I get the squeals