The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

[Securb]

What's the noise boys? It is only $225 I am thinking of pulling the trigger. I love my CC mini so I am willing to take the gamble. Has anyone seen one in real life?

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

They're dope.

I'm getting one.

 

[Mincer]

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I'd say go for the Andromeda. It does a lot more things a lot better.

 

[MetalManiac]

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Collect me if I'm long, but aren't tap tempo and those functions digital? Plus this pedal deos not get the pristine digital repeats that I want for trails.

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

I think the time function can be digitally controlled while the signal path is analog, no?

 

[Matt42]

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I'd say go for the Andromeda. It does a lot more things a lot better.

That's not the point of getting a CC Deluxe though. The point of getting a CC Deluxe is having a Carbon Copy delay with tap tempo, expression pedal, note division, a bright switch, and the mod controls on the outside.

 

[Matt42]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

Oh... and I'm getting one at some point for sure.

 

[MetalManiac]

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That's not the point of getting a CC Deluxe though.

and whats the point if the circuit is digitized with tap tempo and stuff?

 

[Hank-]

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Well the Deluxe Memory Boy & newer DMM with TT are both analog, so is this CCD. Tap tempo & Exp functions aren't making the audio signal pass through a digital domain like the way the TCE Nova delay does *****ample.

 

[allbutromeo]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

I like the CC, and it adds all the things I wished my CC had. But, since I got a Timeline for my main board and have a Carbon Copy, Maxon AD9, and H2O on my home practice board, I doubt I'll be getting one of these

 

[PFDarkside]

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Looks sweet. Really want it.

Jer, if the audio is sent through the BBD, it sounds the same whether it's controlled by a pot or an IC. Plus this has both bright and dark modes. (Maybe that should have been a pot too)

 

[Mincer]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

That's not the point of getting a CC Deluxe though. The point of getting a CC Deluxe is having a Carbon Copy delay with tap tempo, expression pedal, note division, a bright switch, and the mod controls on the outside.

I thought the point was getting an all-around better delay?

But seriously, whats the max delay time on the CC?

 

[allbutromeo]

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I thought the point was getting an all-around better delay?

But seriously, whats the max delay time on the CC?

600ms on the original, 1.2 seconds on the Deluxe

 

[Matt42]

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I thought the point was getting an all-around better delay?

But seriously, whats the max delay time on the CC?

If the point is to get a multi-function delay with a lot of features and a great sound on all settings, the Andormeda or the DD 500 are where I'd go, no doubt. I don't need Reverse Delay or Ping Pong or any of the others that are on the DD-500.

What I DO want is a fully featured, true analog delay. The fact that it happens to be the bigger brother of my favorite delay pedal of all time is just icing on the cake.

 

[Mincer]

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I didn't think you could make an analog delay with such a long delay time. I thought by the time you got over 500ms, the delays would be mush.

 

[Securb]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

I'd say go for the Andromeda. It does a lot more things a lot better.

I run two delays (sometimes 3 with the H9) one digital, one analog. I am all set on the digital side with my DD-7 and H9. I use the digital for my longer delays and the analog for the shorter stuff. I am really hot on this pedal.

 

[PFDarkside]

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I didn't think you could make an analog delay with such a long delay time. I thought by the time you got over 500ms, the delays would be mush.

Add more BBD chips in series and you get more delay time. The Moog and Deluxe Memory Man 1100 are examples of the ~1sec analog delays. (Usually you pay a pretty penny for it too)

 

[Mincer]

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So are those chips working in parallel or series? If they are series, that's where you get the mush, right? I have to admit I love long delays, but those are all digital. I don't know much about the compromises of long analog delays.

 

[dystrust]

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So are those chips working in parallel or series? If they are series, that's where you get the mush, right? I have to admit I love long delays, but those are all digital. I don't know much about the compromises of long analog delays.

The mush in an analog delay comes from the number of repeats, not the delay time. Each pass through the circuit shaves off a bit of high end, resulting in mush after enough repeats. It's possible that a larger number of BBDs would result in more high end roll off, which in turn would lead to mush in fewer repeats.

 

[Mincer]

Re: The Carbon Copy Deluxe Analog Delay

Really? I was under the impression that it was very difficult to get long delay times in an analog delay because of the mush problem. There must be some sort of compression/expansion going on, I am guessing.