The GEORGE LYNCH is the baddest mutha around thread!

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How can you compare Bon Jovi and Dokken? Sure they both fall under the “glam band” blanket, but so did Stryper…:P

Give them both a great listen and you’ll see that there aren’t a ton of similarities. I though Dokken was one of the better heavier glam bands from the 80s… they just weren’t as popular because they weren’t as attractive as Poison and Bon Jovi. ;) George and Richie are two COMPLETELY different players… but both are obviously very talented. George definitely comes off as the more technically gifted player, but Richie seems to be a more soulful player (unrelated, but I think Richie Sambora is a player that doesn’t get nearly the admiration he deserves).

I agree that George is a masterful rhythm player and an equally talented soloist. He’s got a style that is his own. I’d place him equal to and above some of jmh151’s examples. Take context into consideration when listening to Dokken. Know the era it came from and then think about some of the absolute **** that came from that genre during that time period. There were few bands that really possessed something great, and I think Dokken was one of them.

If you want some Lynch exposure that isn’t Dokken, obviously, pick up some early Lynch Mob, but also check out “Furious George” and Lynch Mob “Revolution.” Those albums are full of killer tones and great playing. The Lynch/Pilson project “Wicked Underground” is also a worthwhile grab.

And I’ll save the best for last… “Sacred Groove.” Again, killer tones and great chops. If you can get past the lyrics and the Nelson twins’ vocals, the guitars for “We Don’t Own This World” are very well done. The solo is far more than the “weedling” you guys are accusing him of... it’s fast, but also very well composed.
 
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WICKED LESTER said:
this guy has the tone and chops always used duncans and probably always will this is quite a compliment to seymour duncan consdiering EVERTHING ELSE Mr scary uses changes as much as i change pups!:laugh2: anyway this thread is dedicated to the guy i feel should have much more recognition than he got all these years!:beerchug:

Uh,
1) That's nice, I respect fellow musicians, but,
2) He also uses EMG/ESP pickups, if his signature guitar is correct,
3) This thread is getting annoying, sorry but it's the truth,
4) Sure, maybe I'll buy some of his music some day, but for now....

There are plenty of "guitar gods" out there that I respect, but I'm not going to act like I'm forming a cult either :)
 
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I've heard alot of George's bootlegs and a similar vain runs through his live playing. George is inconsistant and pretty hard to watch/listen too for extended periods. A few moments of brilliance but overall it's just a disjointed series of canned licks.

what the heck you smoking d00d?? you must not play?? or were too big of a winger fan or too young to have heard and/or appreciate the tone LYNCH brings let alone his playing!! I TOTALLY DISAGREEw ith you but you are entitled to your opinion......:smack:
 
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3) This thread is getting annoying, sorry but it's the truth,


as are you.....

face it...Lynch has a cult following :D

if you dont want to view the thread then dont!!

for us cult followers we will continue to do so!

cheers
 
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north said:
George RULES!!!! He has managed to stay relevant to modern guitar after all these years and that's no small feat. He is also always pushing the envelope which is the mark of a true musician...I had the honor to play right after him at the Duncan User Group event and he just killed.I was very impressed that his guitar was tuned down yet he transposed everything on the fly and didn't hit a bad note the whole time...He always has great tone and his chops are just sick.....His style is one I'm always trying to learn (and some day I might be good enough to come close..) At the Duncan event I got to watch him play at close range since I was on the stage waiting to go on after him.His chops are just sick!!! I did get to talk with him after he played and in the lobby after I played and he was very complimentary and cool to me....I think he is highly misunderstood as being arrogant since he's so quiet. He really is a nice guy if you just talk to him....On that note, he just got some tickets to my show tomorrow from my manager and hopefully he'll come down to check me out.If he comes down maybe I'll be able to talk him into jamming with me (I have my fingers crossed!) All that being said I have met alot of "guitar heros" over the years and hve opened for several of them as well.George is easily one of the nicest and easy going........

greatly stated ron !! let us know how the show goes and if GL shows...invite him up on stage with you!! That would r0ck

Sicks chops indeed.....your chops are pretty sick as well!

good luck :D
 
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PreacherNeverSaved said:
or were too big of a winger fan

Funny..as I think Reb has got all George has technically, and also brings the much needed melodic sensibilities and ability to constrain himself....very underrated guitar player, Mr. Beach is.

Though their lead tones are fairly similar..thin..squeaky :D
 
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Nice to hear from the George Lynch fans here... George has been a big influence for over 20 years and I can see here that he is appreciated for what he really is... a true american guitar legend.
I met GL once at a clinic here in Calgary... super nice down to earth and fun guy. Never left a fan hanging and played his FAO.
Tone, Style, chops, attitude and killer rock instincts plus a really cool guy.

cheers
craig
 
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It shouldn't matter what tuning he uses. A lot of players tune their guitars to
e flat. The reason this tuning came about was because of matching the singers voice. If a singer has to sing for long periods of time it is hard on their voice. So then the e flat was instituted. One should play by ear and not look at what the other is doing on their guitar. This shouldn't confuse other players. Players a lot of time move around on stage. So you won't always be able to keep an eye on everything that they are doing. The important thing is to all play in the same key. The key that is played in depends about totally on the singer. You want to harmonize with the singer. What ever the rhythem players play in the soloing is always in the same key. Some players even detune their guitars to dropped D. Motley Crue is one example of this. The reason for this is to make some chords easier to play.
George is one of the best inovators in the business. He has even played other groups music. To be able to do this takes talent. Sure none might use all the same chording on the exact part of the neck as the original band or play it exactly like they do it. But one has to remember that what might be comfortable for one to play in might not be natural or easier for someone else.
One has to play what feels right for them. Some stretches might be easy to play for someone with big hands, but difficult for someone with small hands. Also some people have more flexability than others. George has more flexability than most. He can play in intervals that are very difficult. One of the ones he uses are the 1 3 5 freting with only using the middle, ring, and pinky. This stretch is very hard to do on one string. One has to constantly be working on this to become flexable enough to do this. Some may never be able to get this flexable. That is why I think he is a very acomplised player. He adapted from the Xciter days. Back then he played in a different style. He did a lot of 50's style music like Jail House rock from Elvis Presley. He played more of a clasical blues music. He is constantly evolving. Now he is starting to play some Hendrix and Beatles music again. A band choses what type of music they will play. Then the soloing is adjusted to play in that style of music. It could be any type of music like country or rock or jazz. But the soloing has to fit that style. He adjusts very well from what I have seen. Playing in a new style doesn't come over night. It is a long and grueling process.
 
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MikeS said it well... George can definetly put together a masterful soulful solo listen to Walk Away and tell me this tune is not as good as any Bon Jovi tune???
C'mon...

I'm not bashing Mr. Sambora I really do like him from back in the day but Richie is no Lynch... Lynch's style is accessable too but it is far more refined than Sambora's.

Vai, Satch and Malmsteen plus guys like Michael Schenker, EVH, SRV, Dime, Iommi and many others too have the heavily unique qualities.
 
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I guess innovation is in the eye of the beholder. I dont think Lynch innovated a single thing, he just repeated things others did before him and as his career has 'progressed' he has hopped on every major trend along the way.


But thats just an opinion, its OK if people dont agree. Thats the nice thing about opinions
 
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khingpynn said:
MikeS said it well... George can definetly put together a masterful soulful solo listen to Walk Away and tell me this tune is not as good as any Bon Jovi tune???
C'mon...


Walk Away is a pretty mediocre ballad. Not even close to being in the same league as a song like Wanted Dead or Alive. Its not even in the same galaxy.

Alone again was a good song, but again...its been forgotten.
 
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neosadist said:
Uh,
1) That's nice, I respect fellow musicians, but,
2) He also uses EMG/ESP pickups, if his signature guitar is correct,
3) This thread is getting annoying, sorry but it's the truth,
4) Sure, maybe I'll buy some of his music some day, but for now....

There are plenty of "guitar gods" out there that I respect, but I'm not going to act like I'm forming a cult either :)

this thread is getting ANNOYING???
GET OFF IT THEN! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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from articles i have read - EVH stole/picked up the tapping thing from GL.....thats why GL used to face his amps in the early dokken days -people thought he was being arrogant or too kewl for the fans -but merely hiding his " innovative" technique.......


:dance: :dance: :baby:
 
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wanted a ballad?? not a love song ballad as 80's ballads were typically about......ballad salad r0x 0n XM,,,chek it out
 
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PreacherNeverSaved said:
from articles i have read - EVH stole/picked up the tapping thing from GL.....thats why GL used to face his amps in the early dokken days -people thought he was being arrogant or too kewl for the fans -but merely hiding his " innovative" technique.......


:dance: :dance: :baby:

People were tapping before EVH, Randy, and GL...


EVH just brought it to most people's attention.
 
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PreacherNeverSaved said:
from articles i have read - EVH stole/picked up the tapping thing from GL.....thats why GL used to face his amps in the early dokken days -people thought he was being arrogant or too kewl for the fans -but merely hiding his " innovative" technique.......


:dance: :dance: :baby:

EVH used to face his amps....not George. Ed was known for turning his back on the crowd.

He is really open about where he got hte tapping idea from. He didnt take it from Lynch anymore than he did steal it from Steve Hackett.
 
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well EVH is definitely the most well know world wide with how big van halen is/was compared to dokken - there is no comparison there whatsoever ......

Dokken in 87-88 were at the headline stage of their careers and basically threw what they had away by dissolving.....perfect ballad WALK AWAY wa on beast formt he east about the time they broke up - very fitting. the 2nd coming of dokken was gay in my mind and way too psuedo sounding to me. I was a dokken fan because of GL and a van halen fan because of EVH. So following GL on his own was a no brainer.....and listening to VH was a natural as well with eddie in it with DLR and Hagar - jut not cherone......

I am a fan of both guys - just a cultish fan of GL for his tone and how he has changed/grown thru the years and how he has become to express himslef in his solo recordings etc.....I think of GL more of like a paul gilbert, tony mcalpine or even in a yngwie vein....not that they are similar but that they are guitarists who stand on their own regardless of who is around them....now can reb beach or jon levin bring that to the table?? doubt it.....




PS.....I am excited to hear the new THE MOB with reb beach in it - anyone know when that will be out?
 
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MikeS mentioned GLs solo cd "Sacred Grooove" and I highly recomend it. It`s got a few vocal tunes but theNelson Bros. and Mandy Lions tunes I could live without It does features the late great Ray Gillen vocals on one track and the soulful Glenn Hughes on 2 tracks. Some killer instrumentals and Georges signature playing. If ya like Lynch get it! George Lynch ROCKS!
 
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51501984 said:
MikeS mentioned GLs solo cd "Sacred Grooove" and I highly recomend it. It`s got a few vocal tunes(Nelson Bros. and Mandy Lions) that I could live without but it features the late great Ray Gillen vocals on one track and the soulful Glenn Hughes on 2 tracks. Some killer instrumentals and Georges signature playing. If ya like Lynch get it! George Lynch ROCKS!

I thought the Nelson tune blew chunks along with Mandy Lyon's vocal masturbatory exercise. The Ray Gillen tune was good. Other tunes were nice, but the singing on those two tracks makes me wanna hurl. I seriously can't listen to them.
 
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