The JB "I call BS on everyone" thread
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LLL
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Allow me to break down to some degree as to how this would transpire if it happened:
- unless you have every pickup at your personal disposal, you're going to need to communicate with others to temporarily acquire (borrow) said pickups
- the above will take a good amount of time as these people will need to box up & ship their pickups; who knows how long that will take
Once you finally acquire said pickups:
- you'll need to hone your recording skills so you can get a quality and consistent result for each test clip
- you'll have to pick one guitar to test on
- you'll prolly pick some sort of rhythm and/or solo lines that are repeatable (consistency).
- you'll have to set up your test rig including microphone(s) (if not going direct)
For the actual test:
- you'll record the 1st pickup, then possibly have to cut strings (depends on things as well as how consistent you want to be); if you don't
cut strings, then technically you're not being consistent (fresh set every clip would be optimal)
- you'll have to break out the soldering iron, disconnect the pickup, slap in the next pickup and solder it up, then possibly (as above) re-string and tune up
- repeat these steps for each pickup
Once done recording:
- you'll need to use a limiter or some plugin to normalize all of your clilps so they are close in volume level (consistency)
- you'll need to export all of these to .mp3 (320kbps is best - although .mp3s for a listening test is sort of a joke, should be uncompressed .wav or the like)
- you'll need to post each of these clips to Soundcloud or whatever website
- you'll need to post each clip on the forum and type up a long explanation of whatever "system" you used to test, etc...
The end result?
A hell of a lot of work for the "reward" of (most probable) "well, there's a very slight difference between the models".
And a lot of arguing from various posters about your method, about the tonal quality, about the slight differences, etc you name it.
- unless you have every pickup at your personal disposal, you're going to need to communicate with others to temporarily acquire (borrow) said pickups
- the above will take a good amount of time as these people will need to box up & ship their pickups; who knows how long that will take
Once you finally acquire said pickups:
- you'll need to hone your recording skills so you can get a quality and consistent result for each test clip
- you'll have to pick one guitar to test on
- you'll prolly pick some sort of rhythm and/or solo lines that are repeatable (consistency).
- you'll have to set up your test rig including microphone(s) (if not going direct)
For the actual test:
- you'll record the 1st pickup, then possibly have to cut strings (depends on things as well as how consistent you want to be); if you don't
cut strings, then technically you're not being consistent (fresh set every clip would be optimal)
- you'll have to break out the soldering iron, disconnect the pickup, slap in the next pickup and solder it up, then possibly (as above) re-string and tune up
- repeat these steps for each pickup
Once done recording:
- you'll need to use a limiter or some plugin to normalize all of your clilps so they are close in volume level (consistency)
- you'll need to export all of these to .mp3 (320kbps is best - although .mp3s for a listening test is sort of a joke, should be uncompressed .wav or the like)
- you'll need to post each of these clips to Soundcloud or whatever website
- you'll need to post each clip on the forum and type up a long explanation of whatever "system" you used to test, etc...
The end result?
A hell of a lot of work for the "reward" of (most probable) "well, there's a very slight difference between the models".
And a lot of arguing from various posters about your method, about the tonal quality, about the slight differences, etc you name it.
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Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
I'm a Libertarian, so I'm ok with that.
I will say that I was a little shocked at the number of A2P views. That was just random. This has 27 pages of interest.
Plus, I'm a scientist. I do things just for the science of it. I'm not out to make mega-bucks. Just knowing that I could is enough for me.
LLL
New member
I'm familiar with him and his Wordpress site (he used to post here as well).
He asked me a few questions back in the day about the BK VHII.
Does Darth Phineas post clips comparing variations of the same model pickup a la the JB (like Ace is proposing here)?
No.
Does Darth Phineas write pickup reviews?
Yes.
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LLL
New member
I get it man - you choose not to participate. That's cool.
No need to make such a grand statement
That's not what I'm saying.
I thought about this exercise, then thought "If I were gonna do this, what would need to be done to complete it?"
And then I thought of all the BS and gyrations I'd have to do (swapping pickups,etc etc etc), and the end result of all that hard work... which would be "bupkis".
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
It isn't meant to discourage you. You totally should do this. But you will have 2x as many people doubting your method when it is over. That is just the human way.
beaubrummels
Well-known member
I'd like to hear it. I have one of the first Seymour-wound JBs and a recent shop floor production. I know how they sounded, and what I noticed was different, when I put them in my Les Paul. I've tried the old one in my Jackson also, which makes the same pickup sound different. I'm interested in hearing what these sound like in Ace's guitars, if I can even perceive some difference to begin with, and what the difference between his guitars (and amp) and mine does.
LLL
New member
Good choice.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Not all discouraged Dave. I just mean to say I understand that no group will wholly satisfied no matter what I do. And I'm ok with that.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Bah....that doesn't even count. The level of rigor on this beast will be epic.
But you raise a good point for consideration.
That is the best attitude going in.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
There will always be some keyboard warrior that will come after your opinion no matter what your opinion is. You have an healthy attitude walking into this.
