The Joe Bonamassa Signature Cry Baby Wah thread!

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Interesting....I don't hear much old Vox voicing at all in the JB wah.

The sweep is far too wide and there is way too much low end for it to sound like a Clyde or an 846...

Yeah, you're sorta right about the low end. I think Bonamassa dialed both the wah and FF a bit darker than the traditional pieces. Maybe he's counterbalancing the sound of PAF style pickups into his Jubilee or something.

The FF is darker and smoother than most other FF's I've heard, and when I brought the wah home I adjusted the treadle one or two notches in the treble direction to get the same top end cut as the old Crybabys. I adjust the treadle on every wah I get, but it's usually to cut treble.......like on the Budda.
 
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I demoed the JB and the Zakk Wylde wah again today. Zakk wah takes it! And believe me, I am not a heavy metal guy - the Zakk Wylde just offers a little of everything, you really jump out of the mix when you hit the wah and the notes are thicker and wider than with any other way, and the sweep is wide like the JB. Reminds me of a fatter JB!!! Honestly though I am not playing as much wah these days because I am not playing much lead guitar other than the few cover tunes in my 90s band.
 
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I wish XSSIVE would show up because he went through a whole bunch of wah pedals last year, and I remember him liking the Zakk Wylde Wah a lot too.

I like the Bonamassa Wah quite a bit, and plan to keep the copper set on my small pedalboard.

Overall, the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe is still my favorite wah pedal. It's like having 3 of the most classic wah sounds in one pedal, with 100% bulletproof quality and tone. I'm keeping that one on my #1 pedalboard.
 
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Yea, the Fulltone did nothing for me. :( When I had the Fulltone, my Dunlop Classic which was cheap, easily beat out the Fulltone to my ears. :)
In reality, all wahs may be coming off my boards as I transition away from a lead player with my original project. I only really use wah on 1-2 cover tunes with my 90s band but will keep the Zakk and 95Q around for a while.
 
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Almost all of the Dunlop wahs are based on the old JH-1 Hendrix wah.

The JH-1 is a cool wah, not a Jimi sound and not a vintage sound but a cool sound.

As for the Fulltone...love the sound but can't get used to the feel...for my vintage wah needs I use my Wilson Signature mostly but sometimes I do break out my old Jen built Wah Face...scratchy pot but what a sound!!!
 
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Almost all of the Dunlop wahs are based on the old JH-1 Hendrix wah.

The JH-1 is a cool wah, not a Jimi sound and not a vintage sound but a cool sound.

As for the Fulltone...love the sound but can't get used to the feel...for my vintage wah needs I use my Wilson Signature mostly but sometimes I do break out my old Jen built Wah Face...scratchy pot but what a sound!!!

Ooh, those Wilson wah pedals are the closest sounding things I could find to the old Pro Analog Supa Quack I used to own. That thing was magical... throaty, full sweep, almost watery sounding (but short lived unfortunately when some of the vintage parts failed). If I were to get a wah again, I think I'd seriously consider one of those Wilsons.
 
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Ooh, those Wilson wah pedals are the closest sounding things I could find to the old Pro Analog Supa Quack I used to own. That thing was magical... throaty, full sweep, almost watery sounding (but short lived unfortunately when some of the vintage parts failed). If I were to get a wah again, I think I'd seriously consider one of those Wilsons.

I've got a Wilson Signature wah and it's really nice. I got a vintage spec drop in kit and put it in a crybaby shell... A player left his broken crybaby here years ago lol!

It's cool because every now and again I get a hair up my butt and change the trimmers on the inside a bit and dial it darker or lighter depending on my mood.

It's real growly the way I have it set
 
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That's what I have too...Wilson Signature drop in kit with NOS parts...mine is in a MIA V846 shell, looks and sounds great!
 
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I have been through soooo many wahs. My favorite is the Dunlop Crybaby 95Q. So easy to use because of the instant on/off feature which is a MUST for me live.
 
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I wish XSSIVE would show up.....

wish granted.

I've been reading along since this thread started actually.

Let me just clear up some stuff non Bonamassa related.

GCB-95, Cantrell, Wylde, JH-1 all share the exact same circuit board with slight component changes to them. The EVH and Bonamassa are quite similar yet use different circuit boards and some very different parts making them whole different animals. The JH-1 and Wylde are the same aside from the housing they're in. They're GCB-95s with red fasesl and .022uf sweep caps making them darker (boomy on the bottom with some amps and guitars). The Cantrell is the same as a GCB-95 but with an added knob that lets you roll off high end i the toe down position and the sweep cap (which controls how dark or bright a wah is) is a .012uf making it just a hair darker than a GCB-95 but no where near as dark as the sometimes too dark Wylde and JH-1. The EVH wah also shares the same .012uf sweep cap as the Cantrell yet it uses a different inductor and pot which makes the sweep much different (more mid focused) and much smoother (low friction pot). It also activates real easily thanks to shorter rubber stoppers on the rocker allowing it to contact the switch with next to no effort making turning it on and off nearly as quick as a switchless wah (95Q). It's circuit board is also different from a GCB-95 yet quite similar. As for the others...I've had nearly all of them and could go on and on comparing them. The Bonamassa I'm yet to own though. Need to buy one of them at some point, only tried it out real quick.

One thing about wahs, they're very much like guitars....no two are the same even if they're the same model. Component value drift will alter a wahs voice way more than it does any other pedal. I've had a ton of GCB-95s and some sound quite different from others. Perhaps due to the pot value, or cap values, resistor values, inductor winds, where the pot sweep and gears are aligned within the pots sweep etc etc. If you play one on one day and a different one the next you may miss the subtle difference. Yet if you have a few of them hooked up and go back and forth between them you'll hear it for sure. Also certain wahs work with certain amps better and for certain types of music. Like my EVH wah...didn't like it with my 3120 or for cleans. Love it with my 5150III 50w (go figure haha) and my '79 JMP. The KH wah works great with my 5150III and 3120 but sucks with my JMP. Cantrell works great with my JMP yet not with the 3120 etc etc. There's no one size fits all wah really. There's just one that fits your rig, your playing style and all those small details. Thus why I just have a bunch of them :D

papersoul if you want more tweakability Dunlop will modify a DB-01 Dime wah or 535Q wah to be switchless like a 95Q for a fee (I think it's around $55 but don't quote me on that, e-mail them and ask). If you own the wah already and e-mail them they'll give you the info on sending it in to have it modded to a switchless version of itself.
 
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Lots of good info Mike but remember the old JH-1 wahs did not have a Dunlop Fasel.

The Bona wah is based on a new JH wah (which is VERY similar to the old JH wah) but the construction is different and it uses a halo repro inductor.

Like I said almost all Dunlop wahs are based on the same small pot of ideas...You'll find that most of the Dunlop wahs are base don either the GCB95 or the JH wah which Dunlop calls the Thomas Organ circuit (but it's not...).
 
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Sorry, should have clarified that. I meant the current JH-1 and ZW44 are the same (red fasel and .022uf sweep cap...otherwise a GCB-95). The original JH-1 didn't have the red fasel as you mentioned. Didn't think to mention that since you can't buy those new anymore.
 
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I have the 535Q and my JB wah. I really like the JB wah. It does a great job for me. It has a nice voice, and the range works well with my AC15C1 and 5e3 as well the Bassman LTD. I worked well with pedals, including my 69MKII.
 
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So this is what I am doing - Duncan 59/Custom bridge with 59 neck in my alder PRS CE-22 with toggle.

If it fails me, back go the Dragons.
 
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The Bonamassa is a nice sounding wah as is the Cantrell. I like the Z-45 a lot as well, not to mention the Budda and Fulltone Clyde. However, I always seem to end back with the 95Q as it seems to sit in our band mix better than any way I have used and is so simple to use, plus the gain boost is a huge plus.
 
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I have 4 wahs now. Two are old Thomas Organ Company Wahs which I love. My first TOC wah was so worn out the pedal would just drop. John Spina modded a lot of stuff on it for me & it was my main wah until I couldn't use it unless I stood over it to keep the sweep where I wanted it. The pedal would just drop. So I sent it off to him for some repairs. In the meantime he told me he had one that he wanted to sell, so I bought that one as well. I have been using the second one more lately, but I really love my old one. I also have an 847 that he modded for me & I have a Vox Clyde McCoy that sounds really good. I really prefer the tone & sweep of those old TOC wahs.
 
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