The Marshall Sound?

[WhoFan]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

my POD's 2.0 800 sound has alittle bit in common with my real 1981 800 2204... bright and edgy... i can imagine the Pod patch pretty much sounding close to what this amp would sound like mic'd...

 

[Empty Pockets]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

^ yeah PODs are good for getting the 'recorded tone' of an amp down. They're most useful in studio settings for that reason.

 

[NecroPolo]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

POD is a pretty efficient direct recording device and it is great as such, and a real swiss army tool as a preamp. But no, it doesn't give the true feel of the real stuff. You'll have to smell them cooking tubes yourself to really get what they are.

 

[Stef]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

I've never found a modeling amp that sounds like a real Marshall. But which real Marshall? There are several Marshall sounds and responses. A Marshall generally passes on the voicing of the guitar being used and the tone thats in the players hands, rather than heavilly overiding the guitar's natural voice with its own.

yep!

 

[UberMetalDood]

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In response to the OP, that's because the magic of Marshalls is the tube warmth you get from cranking up the amp. No modeler can do that. In my opinion Marshalls sound like POD's until you give them some volume. When the tubes start to cook the highs get softer and the mids blossom.

As good as the AxeFX is it can't hold a candle to a live tube amp. I have seen some people post sound clips and ask whether people think it's a tube amp or a modeler, but these tests are useless because people may not hear it the first, second or even third time, but record an album with one and after listening to it for a while the sound becomes much less appealing.

Then go back to classic albums that use warm tube amps and see if those lose their appeal so easily. In my opinion I think a lot of people THINK they can get away with modelers but somehow or another it's a mistake to use one for recording albums.

 

[korovamilkdud]

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I remember playing Stevo's amp a few years ago (hot rodded JCM800) and thinking it absolutely felt like silk.

I don't know if he ever parted with it or what, but that was a sweet amp.

 

[sosomething]

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<--- the "Marshall sound" is not here.

It is here:

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[SBPhrog]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

They don't all go to eleven.

I've found The Marshal Sound to be largely related to The Cabinet attached to The Amp, The Drivers in The Cabinet, and The Wiring to, from and through The Cabinet, as well at The Guitar providing the tone generation for The Movement of Air. Each of these is hard for A Pod to reproduce on it's own. Get creative and play around with some combinations of tricks.

Where there's a will, there's a way, Ribbit.

 

[Diego]

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Sosomething just closed the discussion right there.

The Marshall sound is definitely here too:

 

[misterwhizzy]

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They don't all go to eleven.

I've found The Marshal Sound to be largely related to The Cabinet attached to The Amp, The Drivers in The Cabinet, and The Wiring to, from and through The Cabinet, as well at The Guitar providing the tone generation for The Movement of Air. Each of these is hard for A Pod to reproduce on it's own. Get creative and play around with some combinations of tricks.

Where there's a will, there's a way, Ribbit.

So all the things plugged into your guitar matter? Is that the Reader's Digest version?

P.S. I had to read your post more than once to get past The Capitalization.

 

[ImmortalSix]

Re: The Marshall Sound?

It's about clarity and how it sits in the mix with a full band.

Some things you just have to experience to understand.

I've never found a modeling amp that sounds like a real Marshall.

they sit perfectly in the mix once everything is said and done.

Its the POD- they are in no way, shape or form a decent simulation of a real plexi or metalface amp....The EQ is all messed up.

the L6 stuff really is icky & nasal... not at all like the real deal.

To say a POD is the voice of a Marshall is kind of like saying Forza Motorsport 2 for the Xbox 360 is like driving a Ferrari.

Well said everyone.

Big x2. We just got an old JCM 800 in at the local shop and I am reliving my college basement days over there. The JCM 800 can do a lot if you aren't afraid to turn the knobs!

Anywho, I have played a pile of Marshalls and a lot of modelers, and nobody gets the Marshall sound. the clunk / knock timbre of a semi-clean guitar tone on a Marshall is one of those things you just have to be there for.

 

[ImmortalSix]

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Click here for a good example of a well recorded JCM 800 tone.

I love this recording.

 

[astrozombie]

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Holy **** I need a marshall. I used to think I needed a Rect.

 

[Christopher Caruana]

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No modeling amp or distortion pedal is going to get you "the" Marshall sound. If you want the marshall tone (slash, EVH, angus, page.....) you're gonna have to buy a marshall. Ive tried for years to get "the" marshall tone out of other amps and pedals.......and you just can't do it. I finally found a good deal on a '83 JCM 800 combo a few months back. Now I have "the" Marshall tone, and Im never looking back.


Edit: no pedal or modeling amp can replicate the edgy roar that you get from an overdriven Marshall that's cranked up and has the tubes working hard. and they cant replicate the feel of a tube amp and how it responds and reacts to your touch and playing.

For me....Marshall is the best