The Underappreciated Vibrola

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I modded my Firebird some months ago with an aftermarket Crazyparts short vibrola. I was a little nervous because they have a bit of a reputation for tuning stability issues but I really love the way the guitar sounds and feels, I want to gig it, and when I'm playing a hartail guitar I'm always reaching for the bar and wishing it was there. I tried a stetsbar but found it to be a tremendous tone-suck so I finally decided to take a chance on a vibrola. Here are my thoughts in no particular order:

1) If you are having tuning stability issues it is NOT the vibrola's fault. The strings are either hanging up in the bridge or the nut.

2) Get a roller bridge. The Wilkinson works perfectly and doesn't suck tone. After installing that and lubing the nut I have been unable to knock this guitar out of tune.

3) This might just be the most maintenance-free vibrato tailpiece on the planet. The only moving part is the bar.

4) It has much more range going down than a Bigsby. You can't quite dive-bomb but it's enough for 95% of what I do with a bar. It also has some upbend.

5) Come to think of it, it's superior to a Bigsby in every way.

6) It actually enhanced the tone! It shouldn't have been a surprise that replacing a light aluminum stop tailpiece with a heavy chunk of rolled steel would have an effect.

7) Due to the design, it twists a little when you actuate the bar so the treble strings move more than the bass. This is good! It takes a greater change in tension to change the pitch of the thinner strings. Therefore the pitch change on one of these is much more even across the strings than on any other design. Using the bar on chords sounds much more in tune than it does on anything else I've used.

8) There are two aftermarket manufacturers making vibrolas. DO NOT buy the one from allparts! Sadly that is the one gibson uses for the reissues but it is kind of a piece of crap (I won't detail the road I traveled discovering this). You want the one from Crazyparts. It's a bit more $$$ but worth it. Also, my vibrola came with a pack of Gummy Bears because Germans are awesome.

In summary, I can't recommend these enough... it's my new favorite whammy.
 
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Believe the originals had rocking/rounded post mounts on the bridge. Can you adjust the tension at all on those, in case you change string gauges?
 
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Believe the originals had rocking/rounded post mounts on the bridge. Can you adjust the tension at all on those, in case you change string gauges?

Nothing is adjustable... it's just a chunk of rolled steel that works like the leaf spring on a car. So yeah... it's going to sit a little different depending on string guage but the metal is heavy enough that the difference is not dramatic.

As for the bridge mine came with a Nashville which is a **** sandwich anyway.
 
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I'd love to see it. I have to admit, I've never used a Vibrola.
 
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Wow, those are pretty lo-fi! Does it return in tune?
 
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It is amazing to me that in all this time, there hasn't really been a vibrato produced with 0 shortcomings. Even my TransTrem has quirks. Is this the best engineering can get? Can we get some college students on this?
 
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It is amazing to me that in all this time, there hasn't really been a vibrato produced with 0 shortcomings. Even my TransTrem has quirks. Is this the best engineering can get? Can we get some college students on this?

Yes, they all have their issues. But I won't be without one live.
 
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Me either..my favorites are still the TransTrem, the BladeRunner, and the weirdo gold/brass one on my 1982 'The Strat'.

Most of my Strats have Callaham six screw units. They're very well-made, and the guitars seem a bit bolder sounding with them compared to others I've tried. Sustain is definitely improved. They're expensive for what they are tho... they cost as much as a Floyd. I have to file the cavity a bit bigger to get the same range as a standard strat unit because of the block size, but since all my bodies are Precision factory seconds anyway who cares? I have some RGs with Floyds on them, but I really only use those for session work when the producer wants "Les Paul" sounds or in instances where I need to seriously dive-bomb. These guitars all have Ibanez original Edge units which are great. And then there's the vibrola, which I'm just getting really familiar with. And loving it.
 
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I've got to agree with you on how nice vibrolas are. There's just something nice about the sheer simplicity of them. They also feel different. They have a stiffness to them, but it's a good stiffness.

But I will also agree that they can be a major nuisance if you have a bad unit, bad setup, or a single weak link between your tuners and the bridge.

And finally, they have one major advantage over other tremolos, they make SG's look like this:

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Hey, question on which one you bought. The one with springs or the flange? Both are offered on crazy parts. The only one All Parts offer has the flange. Is there a difference between how they work, is one easier to install than the other? I'm guessing the flange is used by gibson now only cuz its cheaper. I'll be drilling the holes myself so there's nothing that needs to line up.
 
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AFAIK, no Vibrola has ever had springs. That's the beauty of them, there's only one moving part. Nothing to go wrong, nothing to break or be maladjusted. They're totally low-tech. And I like mine much better than my Bigsby.

EDIT- I had forgotten about the "sideways" vibrolas from 1961/62; I guess that model did have springs. But although they look cool on vintage axes, I don't think anybody in their right mind would choose to put one on a recent guitar. They are notoriously a pain to use, very unnatural feeling.
 
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I've got to agree with you on how nice vibrolas are. There's just something nice about the sheer simplicity of them. They also feel different. They have a stiffness to them, but it's a good stiffness.

And finally, they have one major advantage over other tremolos, they make SG's look like this:

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Agreed, simple design, the arm & handle are nicely thick & solid, and few guitars look as cool as an SG with a vibrola.
 
Re: The Underappreciated Vibrola

Hey, question on which one you bought. The one with springs or the flange? Both are offered on crazy parts. The only one All Parts offer has the flange. Is there a difference between how they work, is one easier to install than the other? I'm guessing the flange is used by gibson now only cuz its cheaper. I'll be drilling the holes myself so there's nothing that needs to line up.

This isn't strictly relevant (at all), but did you know the early Bigsby's used a valve spring from a Harley? Just thought that was cool.
 
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