The worksman D tuner... riiiight...

[Pierre]

Ok I had seen many people say 'eh look, when you tune your Floyd, tighten the E string fine tuner all the way up (tight) this way when you want to drop the string, just down tune on the fine tuner all the way'

Is it me or it doesn't work? The tension in the string changes and modifies the other string's tunings, yet I still see this method advertised a lot...
Any experiences with it?

 

[FretFire]

Re: The worksman D tuner... riiiight...

Ok I had seen many people say 'eh look, when you tune your Floyd, tighten the E string fine tuner all the way up (tight) this way when you want to drop the string, just down tune on the fine tuner all the way'

Is it me or it doesn't work? The tension in the string changes and modifies the other string's tunings, yet I still see this method advertised a lot...
Any experiences with it?

If your trem is set up to float it won't work (neither will the EVH D-tuna for that matter). It must be set up for down-only operation or be fully blocked.

 

[Pierre]

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Makes more sense. I need to block mind darnit I don't know how to find a piece of wood that'd fit there...
Also, is it possible to just tape it there? I don't want to glue it as I may unblock it later.

 

[XSSIVE]

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just get one of these...

http://www.axcessories.com/proddetail.asp?prod=AXfrstp

it installs like this...

-Mike

 

[FretFire]

Re: The worksman D tuner... riiiight...

Makes more sense. I need to block mind darnit I don't know how to find a piece of wood that'd fit there...
Also, is it possible to just tape it there? I don't want to glue it as I may unblock it later.

No need to do something like that. If the bridge route is recessed, consider wrapping a 9V battery up in a bit of electrical tape and place it under the bridge to hold it level. That's what I always used to keep mine in place when removing all the strings to clean the guitar and it worked beautifully.

 

[Pierre]

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I shiver at the idea of having a hole drilled into my baby
It's a non recessed Floyd too. I think I just need that piece of wood and some tape... grrr... :smack:

 

[FretFire]

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I shiver at the idea of having a hole drilled into my baby

Hey, it's already full of 'em :laugh2:. That one's tucked away inside the cavity, and it's tiny.

 

[Pierre]

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Ah well you guys are right. This is one tiny item to add to the summer list of things to buy. Cheers for the tips!

 

[XSSIVE]

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i wouldn't worry about the hole like the others said. it's in the cavity under a cover and if you take it off the middle spring that you put back in will hide it anyway.

-Mike

 

[Mephis]

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I really need to do this....

And btw, wouldn't placing like different tone woods in there to block it, give it different tones?
Something to play with I guess.

 

[Imp]

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interesting point.. though i think the density of the material is the only thing making a huge difference.. brass or lead would increase sustain.. callahan do this sort of thing..

tom

 

[Davey]

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If your trem is set up to float it won't work (neither will the EVH D-tuna for that matter). It must be set up for down-only operation or be fully blocked.

it does work.

it might be the exception rather than the rule, but it does work.
the low e tuner on my floyd isnt down tight, but when i fully unscrew it the axe is in dropD and the other strings stay in tune enough that it's not noticeable when played along tunes like wrathchild and together with a 2nd guitarist


i was thinking about this the other day.. blocking the trem.

i dont see how it would do anything for the tone if you blocked it with that little screw thingy.. the wood is still missing beneath the trem and it's not resting on any wood either. putting pieces of wood next to the block of the floyd is also a thing that i just cant associate with change of tone. the thing is so small that it's minute in the tone change. brass could work as it's increasing the size of the trem block (in a way) and it's metal on metal.
so if you ask me (my opinion only mind you) blocking a trem to make tone better (really a subjective thing) without filling the cavity so the actual trem is resting on wood (that IS the body wood, not just a little block added which doesnt resonate WITH the body) and the hole through the body is minimal, is total BS


using this (tremsetter thingy) to block the floyd so you can do alternate tunigs that go beyond dropD without having to totaly set up the floyd is a diferent thing entirely and i think it's quite usefull

 

[RCM78]

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This works on some guitars and some not. I have five guitars with Floyds. I can drop the E to D and stay in tune on two of them.

It seems to work better If the guitar is tuned to Eb in the first place...

 

[Pierre]

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Can you use a D tuner on a JT6? I know you can on all Floyds that don't have the 'pro' profile (locking screws don't run under the fine tuners) but I have no idea about the JT6 due to its unique design.

 

[Zerberus]

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Can you use a D tuner on a JT6? I know you can on all Floyds that don't have the 'pro' profile (locking screws don't run under the fine tuners) but I have no idea about the JT6 due to its unique design.

No, and I´m pretty sure it won´t work on a Schaller, either....

You have to have standard OFR style locking screws, which means the "Classic" Edge and Gotoh Floyds as well as some low end floyds can be retrofitted along with an OFR or OFR-7 (whoch would make it an A-Tuna, but who cares...).

 

[Pierre]

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Mhmm... ok...
I think I'll go for a tremsetter actually. Are there any noticeable disadvantages to it? I hear you can't flutter but I don't know what this means so yeaaah... Basically what I'm looking for is more tuning stability in case of worn out knife edges, and possibility to tune down faster. I use 4 springs now.

 

[rspst14]

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Here's the thing with the D-Tuner...in my experience, even if you have the Floyd set totally flush against the body, the other strings will still go somewhat out of tune. You need to set it flush and block it so that it can't move at all, not even a little bit. I had one on my Wolfgang, I found it pretty useless. Even if I had gone to the trouble of blocking the trem with a piece of wood, I'd still have the problem of a 46 gauge string tuned to D, flopping around everywhere. 46 is really too light to work well tuned down a full step. I suppose it's a decent solution if you just need to tune to drop D on occasion, but ideally you should really use a heavier string gauge on the low E.

Ryan

 

[Pierre]

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I use 10.52 at the moment and I don't plan to change. Lovely gauge that is. I'm tuned a full step down and it doesn't feel too sloppy but I lack experience with string gauges, I only tries .09 and the 10/52 I have now.