Thicken and warm up an SG
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James Rock
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Re: Thicken and warm up an SG
well hes gonna get the gibby pickups out of an old 80's sg copy and try them. But the thing is that he is probably going to use the Sg as his double humbucker guitar (our band plays a more brit pop/surf type stuff) Rickenbacker and tele's come to mind tonewise as well as maybe gretsches.
His next guitar is probablt gonna be a jaguar/jazzmaster (most likely a copy with new p/ups)
well hes gonna get the gibby pickups out of an old 80's sg copy and try them. But the thing is that he is probably going to use the Sg as his double humbucker guitar (our band plays a more brit pop/surf type stuff) Rickenbacker and tele's come to mind tonewise as well as maybe gretsches.
His next guitar is probablt gonna be a jaguar/jazzmaster (most likely a copy with new p/ups)
Mac-P
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Re: Thicken and warm up an SG
Well, it all depends on "how much" you want to thicken....
Have tried em all, and each one stayed in the guitar for at least a month in gigging settings.
The '59 mentioned earlier will not thicken. It is a vintage voiced bucker. You need something with more mids.
If you want to thicken a little - Duncan Custom
Thicken more: Dimarzio Breed or Air Zone - less highs than the Custom, more mids
if either of the DiMarzios are too "refined" (a common sentiment), the JB is more raw with more snarl but with very similar EQ curve. Less highs and more mids than the Custom.
If you want the thickest and darkest: Rio Grand BBQ. Noticabley less highs and more bass than all the other pickups (loud, yet still sort of vintage sounding - very interesting and very cool).
Note: the BBQ is hard to match to a neck pickup as it will make most neck pickups sound like single coils. In my experience a loud neck with an Alnico ll magnet is the best blend. Many people do NOT like the BBQ just like they don't like the JB (for opposite reasons - pretty funny). I love both and I'll take one or the other in the bridge of an SG depending on the guitar. :burnout:
Well, it all depends on "how much" you want to thicken....
Have tried em all, and each one stayed in the guitar for at least a month in gigging settings.
The '59 mentioned earlier will not thicken. It is a vintage voiced bucker. You need something with more mids.
If you want to thicken a little - Duncan Custom
Thicken more: Dimarzio Breed or Air Zone - less highs than the Custom, more mids
if either of the DiMarzios are too "refined" (a common sentiment), the JB is more raw with more snarl but with very similar EQ curve. Less highs and more mids than the Custom.
If you want the thickest and darkest: Rio Grand BBQ. Noticabley less highs and more bass than all the other pickups (loud, yet still sort of vintage sounding - very interesting and very cool).
Note: the BBQ is hard to match to a neck pickup as it will make most neck pickups sound like single coils. In my experience a loud neck with an Alnico ll magnet is the best blend. Many people do NOT like the BBQ just like they don't like the JB (for opposite reasons - pretty funny). I love both and I'll take one or the other in the bridge of an SG depending on the guitar. :burnout:
neosadist
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Re: Thicken and warm up an SG
He might want to get a Gibson SG.
However, my opinion, get pickups that, if you want fatter tone, do not have EQ=9 for treble on the tone chart. I've got a maple+agathis (agathis is a mahogany wannabe), and I'm going with a '59 in neck and JB in bridge (both 4-wire).
He might want to get a Gibson SG.
However, my opinion, get pickups that, if you want fatter tone, do not have EQ=9 for treble on the tone chart. I've got a maple+agathis (agathis is a mahogany wannabe), and I'm going with a '59 in neck and JB in bridge (both 4-wire).
Mac-P
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Re: Thicken and warm up an SG
Yes, well Gibson is better in all regards.
The '59/JB combo is great. I used it for a long time. The '59 can get boomy in the neck sometimes though. The Pearly Gates has less bass and can be an even better match if you find the '59 too bassy.
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neosadist said:
Yes, well Gibson is better in all regards.
The '59/JB combo is great. I used it for a long time. The '59 can get boomy in the neck sometimes though. The Pearly Gates has less bass and can be an even better match if you find the '59 too bassy.
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Re: Thicken and warm up an SG
I have a set of '59s in my SG Special Faded and the neck is definitely warmer than the Jazz in my Les Paul, as one would expect. I play quite clean and so it's not muddy but thick - and it's great for thicker rhythm and lead work. I absolutely love the '59 bridge, but it's certainly not warm - I actually have to roll off the tone to 7 to get the tone I'm after (and I really, really like treble) - but it's still thick (to my ears). In the end the two Gibsons have very different tones, thanks in part to the pick ups, and complement each other really well. One last thing: I had a JB in the SG before the '59, but found that I wanted at least one guitar with a PAF output bridge, as the JB kicks some serious butt in the LP, but that can be a bit over the top in certain songs, so the SG comes in handy when needed.
I have a set of '59s in my SG Special Faded and the neck is definitely warmer than the Jazz in my Les Paul, as one would expect. I play quite clean and so it's not muddy but thick - and it's great for thicker rhythm and lead work. I absolutely love the '59 bridge, but it's certainly not warm - I actually have to roll off the tone to 7 to get the tone I'm after (and I really, really like treble) - but it's still thick (to my ears). In the end the two Gibsons have very different tones, thanks in part to the pick ups, and complement each other really well. One last thing: I had a JB in the SG before the '59, but found that I wanted at least one guitar with a PAF output bridge, as the JB kicks some serious butt in the LP, but that can be a bit over the top in certain songs, so the SG comes in handy when needed.
