Thicker-sounding pickups for Strandberg Boden Standard 6: Dimarzio Breed?

mcdolphinburger

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First post, long time lurker. I've learned a great deal over the years from some of the posters of long standing, and the forum influenced my first aftermarket pickup purchases (Seth Lovers for a maple-necked Epiphone Les Paul).

I have a Strandberg Boden Standard 6 (basswood w/maple cap; roasted maple, carbon fiber-reinforced neck; hardtail) that's a bit lacking in the lower midrange. The guitar naturally has a great deal of detail and high-end extension, and I'd like to substitute the stock pickups for something that would retain those qualities while filling out the bottom end.

The stock pickups are Strandberg's first-gen OEM line (A5, 10.6k neck and 18.2k bridge). Those are pretty formidable DCR ratings, and I can confirm that the output is quite high – I had to screw them down considerably when I received the guitar in order to get a more natural, uncompressed ring out of struck notes. These are quality pickups that seem optimized for clarity under heavy gain (note also that there's some debate in the Strandberg community around whether these pickups are direct clones or adaptations of the Suhr SSV and SSH+); however, I’m way more of a jazz and fusion player these days, and I think I'm ready to move on to something that suits a less gained-out style.

This is a 24-fret neck, multiscale, 25”-25.5” guitar, and the pickups are in their normal position perpendicular to the guitar’s neck axis (that is to say, they’re not offset like most extended-range multiscale guitars). Although the neck pickup has great high-end extension and detail, it’s always a bit thin for my taste and I have trouble getting fatter and darker jazz tones out of it even when I roll down the tone considerably.

The bridge pickup isn’t bad either, but it’s got a bit of an upper-midrange spike that works well for some things, but it's a bit harsh for clean playing. Again, I’d like something that fills out the bottom end a bit more.

I’m drawn to the Dimarzio Breed ‘cause many posters here have advocated for its qualities in filling out lighter-weight, bright-sounding guitars. I’ve also got an old Air Zone lying around that I might try in the bridge position. I’d like to stick to medium-output/hotter-than-vintage pickups.

Other suggestions? Air Norton/Air Zone? I’m gravitating toward Dimarzio here because most of SD’s newer higher-output offerings seem optimized toward proggier or more percussive styles of playing. Alnico II Pro neck/Custom Custom bridge might work, but I kinda suspect that the CC’s EQ is moving too far in the other direction for me.
 
The Air Zone would probably work, or a regular Tone Zone if you're looking for a little darker and more output in the bridge. Air Norton seems to be a popular pairing with both, but I have no experience with 'em.
 
From your description of everything, I'm thinking something with an Alnico Ii magnet.
 
Welcome (to posting) on the forum!

My first thought when reading your description is the Black Winter. It ticks the boxes you set up, all of them. It is a remarkable pickup that is designed to fix the issues you are having.
 
Welcome (to posting) on the forum!

My first thought when reading your description is the Black Winter. It ticks the boxes you set up, all of them. It is a remarkable pickup that is designed to fix the issues you are having.

Interesting take – the Black Winter set is similar to the Distortion, right? How does the bridge model sound clean? Are the upper mids pushed like the JB or Distortion?
 
I think the Breed set would be a great choice here, designed specifically for fattening bright thin-sounding guitars.
They were discontinued years ago but last time I checked there were still some new ones for sale on eBay.

One option DiMarzio still offers is the AT-1. Quite similar in character to the Breed bridge IMO.
Some have speculated that it's pretty much a direct descendant, minus the hex poles.
Another DiMarzio that's derived from the Breed is the MusicMan Axis bridge pickup, but AFAIK those aren't sold separately.
 
I think the Breed set would be a great choice here, designed specifically for fattening bright thin-sounding guitars.
They were discontinued years ago but last time I checked there were still some new ones for sale on eBay.

One option DiMarzio still offers is the AT-1. Quite similar in character to the Breed bridge IMO.
Some have speculated that it's pretty much a direct descendant, minus the hex poles.
Another DiMarzio that's derived from the Breed is the MusicMan Axis bridge pickup, but AFAIK those aren't sold separately.

The AT-1 specs out pretty close to the Air Zone. Anyone compared the two? What'd you recommend as a neck pairing for the AT-1?

I've also heard the the Dominion is very close to the Breed. Anybody have experience with both sets?
 
The Black Winter has more true mids rather than upper mids and high end. I love the clean sound- it is marketed as a super high gain pickup, but unlike most high gain pickups, this one has a great clean sound.
 
The Black Winter has more true mids rather than upper mids and high end. I love the clean sound- it is marketed as a super high gain pickup, but unlike most high gain pickups, this one has a great clean sound.

Yeah, in all the demo vids I've run across the BW seems to have a very dry, flat-EQd quality that I appreciate. Modern and hifi in pleasing way.

Aesthetically, the blackened model with the hex poles would look effin' sick in this guitar.

My concern about a high-DCR, ceramic magnet pickup with ferrous spacers is that it would have a very sharp and compressed pick attack, which is really the opposite of what I want. I do a lot of finger- and hybrid-picked chord work.
 
The AT-1 specs out pretty close to the Air Zone. Anyone compared the two? What'd you recommend as a neck pairing for the AT-1?

I've also heard the the Dominion is very close to the Breed. Anybody have experience with both sets?

For a neck to go with the AT-1 in a bright, thin guitar I'd say the Air Norton would be a good choice.
I've never had an Air Zone or the Dominions myself.
 
I usually hate high-DCR pickups (and generally, ceramic magnets), but the BW doesn't feel compressed as most of them...and doesn't have the annoying high end of ceramic-based models. Try one out in another guitar somewhere if you get a chance.

In my headless Steinberger, I have an APH-1 and a custom shop 59/Custom Hybrid (double screws). But I rarely use more than Tube Screamer-levels of gain, and I do a lot of dynamic hybrid picking.
 
I've used the Breed, it would be a good choice, but I think is OOP but I'm sure there are some out there. The Air Zone would also be choice.
 
I've used the Breed, it would be a good choice, but I think is OOP but I'm sure there are some out there. The Air Zone would also be choice.

Hearing a lot of support for the Air Zone / Air Norton. Seems a bit generic, but I can't find any record of anybody saying anything bad about either of these pickups.
 
The Breed set is awesome! They're no longer listed on their site, but DiMarzio will still make them. I put a set in a Dean E'Lite/Cadillac last year and love them.
 
Dimarzio will make you a set of breeds however you like them. Order direct from them too. The online dealers can get them as well. You pay the same price, but it'll take longer to arrive.

I bought a set about a year ago directly from them. You can pick pole piece color and bobbin colors. Metal covers too. I put them in a brighter, thinner rg that a set of full shreds were harsh as hell in. Worked like a charm!

It takes about 2 weeks from order to delivery.


They do exactly what you are looking for. Plus, the neck pickup splits very well.

have you tried 250k pots yet? For a few bucks, the tonal shift of cutting the high end a bit often emphasizes the lows and mids more.
 
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