Thinking About Selling My PRS For An Epiphone...

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I like it. It's always nice to hear people share that sentiment instead of being gear snobs. Especially on the interwebs.

+1. Too many times people get online recommendations to to spend thousands on a guitar and for most people that's not feasible, ever. They've got bills to pay, a family to support, and can't mess up their finances for a high-end instrument. It's not worth it when it causes marital problems or means you have to drive around in an old, unreliable car. Some people are in a position where they can dump a lot of money into a guitar, that's great but that's not the average guy, especially in this lingering economy.

There's a number of big blues players (with albums who tour) that use mid-price import guitars. I don't think a set-neck Epi is going to 'hold anyone back.' A good set-up and upgraded PU's and it'll sound and play very well. I've seen a few excellent players pick up an entry level guitar in a music store and play amazing things on it. No doubt, a $2,000 or $3,000 guitar is better instrument, but the problem is justifying that jump in cost. The term 'point of diminishing returns' comes into play. There's been threads here in the past where it's been said that a Gibson sounds 10 or 15% better than an Epi of the same model. Spend $500 on a new Epi LP or $2,000 more for a 10% better tone. That's tough for a blue collar man with a family.

An expensive guitar doesn't make you a better player, practicing does. There's plenty of mediocre players with mid-price imports, and there's plenty of them with high-end American-made guitars too. Neither group sounds very good, the difference being in what they spent in order to be able to make mediocre music. Regardless of what the headstock says, you better be able to do something with it when you get on stage. Brand names mean nothing to an audience that wants to be entertained. What good players have is talent, and that's not something you can get with a credit card. Music is in the hands and head. Impress people with your playing, not with what you spent.
 
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I'm not a Gibson basher, (well, maybe I am...even though I currently own 4 or 5 and have owned 6 or 8 more in the past), but in the time it will take the OP to save up for the Gibson, he could be playing a couple Epis that are probably better than the Gibson anyway.

So I add my remark of "BS to the idea of saving for a Gibson".
 
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I've had a few Gibsons and played a bunch of Epiphones and even the PRS SE models (which I owned one of as well). When it boils down to the playability, tone, the "liveliness" of the instrument, and just the overall solidness of it, I'll take the Gibson every time. That's not to say that I don't like Epi's and PRS's. The SE Singlecut Korina I had was incredible and I wish I still had it but I needed money for other priorities. It's a great instrument. BUT, compared to the LP Studio I owned and even the SG Classic I had, the imports don't touch 'em in terms of overall liveliness, the way they feel and the sound.

There's too many Epi LP's that are mystery wood under a veneer. The Tribute and a few of the limited sig models I think are the only ones that are actually what they say they are in the specs. In fact, the Tribute and Thayer are probably the only ones I'd seriously consider in the Epi line.

Nobody has to spend $2k plus for a Gibson LP. There's the used market and there are some seriously good deals out there, you just have to look. I'd look for used Epi models that I mentioned above too. The simple reason is because the resale value on imports is horrible. You can easily lose 50% of the original purchase price on resale, even with it in good condition. You might lose 35%-40% if it's in great condition.

But it's not my money. The OP can spend it on what he wants. His choice. Just sharing my thoughts on it and what I would do if I was in the market for a LP. I have serious GAS for one but can't afford it right now. Luckily my buddy is holding on to it until I can. ;) Yeah, it's a Gibby, a LP Traditional Pro. :baby:
 
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I've loved every Epi that I've owned (nearly a dozen) after replacing pups, pots, caps, nuts, and tuners, and some bridges.

I've loved MOST Gibsons that I've owned (over a dozen), but a couple were absolute junk and couldn't be saved by replacing anything, and I had to return 4 others that were not even up to par with Epi, even though they were $2000+ guitars.

I now go with the odds. I get a better product and save thousands of dollars doing so.
 
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+1. Too many times people get online recommendations to to spend thousands on a guitar and for most people that's not feasible, ever. They've got bills to pay, a family to support, and can't mess up their finances for a high-end instrument. It's not worth it when it causes marital problems or means you have to drive around in an old, unreliable car. Some people are in a position where they can dump a lot of money into a guitar, that's great but that's not the average guy, especially in this lingering economy.

There's a number of big blues players (with albums who tour) that use mid-price import guitars. I don't think a set-neck Epi is going to 'hold anyone back.' A good set-up and upgraded PU's and it'll sound and play very well. I've seen a few excellent players pick up an entry level guitar in a music store and play amazing things on it. No doubt, a $2,000 or $3,000 guitar is better instrument, but the problem is justifying that jump in cost. The term 'point of diminishing returns' comes into play. There's been threads here in the past where it's been said that a Gibson sounds 10 or 15% better than an Epi of the same model. Spend $500 on a new Epi LP or $2,000 more for a 10% better tone. That's tough for a blue collar man with a family.

An expensive guitar doesn't make you a better player, practicing does. There's plenty of mediocre players with mid-price imports, and there's plenty of them with high-end American-made guitars too. Neither group sounds very good, the difference being in what they spent in order to be able to make mediocre music. Regardless of what the headstock says, you better be able to do something with it when you get on stage. Brand names mean nothing to an audience that wants to be entertained. What good players have is talent, and that's not something you can get with a credit card. Music is in the hands and head. Impress people with your playing, not with what you spent.

I nominate this for post of the year.
 
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Blueman335 wrote: "An expensive guitar doesn't make you a better player, practicing does. There's plenty of mediocre players with mid-price imports, and there's plenty of them with high-end American-made guitars too. Neither group sounds very good, the difference being in what they spent in order to be able to make mediocre music. Regardless of what the headstock says, you better be able to do something with it when you get on stage. Brand names mean nothing to an audience that wants to be entertained. What good players have is talent, and that's not something you can get with a credit card. Music is in the hands and head. Impress people with your playing, not with what you spent".


^I totally agree with this^ Guitar playing is about playing, not gear. There's absolutely nothing wrong with spending $3k on a guitar if you like, but it has nothing to do with actual playing skill. Many people seem to think that if they can buy some expensive rig that they want they'll be great players, but it just aint so. If someone is being 'held back' it isnt because of the guitar they're playing. :)
 
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Hey, everybody. Thank you for all your input, it's very much appreciated. There's been some new developments and without going into great detail, my financial situation may be significantly improving at some point in the next few months, at which point I'll be able to afford another Gibson (or maybe a Gibson and an Epiphone). For the time being, I'm going to stick it out with the PRS and see how things play out.
 
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I say get the Epiphone, but base it on feel, sound, and playability. Not nostalgia. Definitely play the model you are looking at before selling your PRS. If it feels better, sounds better, and looks better to YOU....wait for it...IT IS BETTER!!!
 
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