This is beyond stupid
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Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
It is Gary Moore's No. 1
weepingminotaur
Well-known member
So if a new player bought this guitar used at a pawn shop and the story and history are not his own is he being a fraud and a poser somehow?
I haven't used the words "fraud" and "poser," so I can't speak to that. But you keep trying to make this an abstract discussion, when in reality that pawn shop purchase would always be contingent on price. If it's being sold at a cut rate, then it's worth purchasing if you enjoy refurbishing and repairing guitars. Personally, I don't, so I wouldn't go near that guitar no matter who played it or how much history it had or even how cheap it was. But at least someone who buys a damaged guitar that belonged to a celebrity is honest about why they're buying it: for the associations, the "aura," etc. They're not trying to pretend that the story behind the wear and tear on Nile Rodgers's Hitmaker is somehow theirs, or that it makes the guitar play better.
And none of this has anything to do with the original point of discussion, which was guitars that are artificially reliced and priced the same or higher than non-reliced guitars.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
How hard is it to understand that relic'ed guitars cost more because their is more work involved (if nothing more than giving it another pass through the cnc machine) and that if relic'ed guitars weren't selling they wouldn't make them.
Outside of these principles, all you're doing is that someone is using their own money to make their own decisions in a diverse market.
Outside of these principles, all you're doing is that someone is using their own money to make their own decisions in a diverse market.
GuitarStv
Sock Market Trader
If you buy a broken ass guitar because it's all you can afford and you got it a great deal . . . then no problems. Givver hell.
If you pay extra to get someone to break your guitar because you're afraid to write your own story . . . then yeah, you're a fraud and a poser.
Come on, Securb. You can show all of these specific cases of worn guitars that may or may not have some extra value because of who owned them. But you're sheepishly avoiding the original issue here...namely paying the same price or more then a brand new pristine guitar because it was ARTIFICIALLY reliced.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
I think we are hitting the middle ground. If someone is buying a relic for the sole purpose of writing their story. I can see where someone might have an issue with that. Especially if they are paying extra money to tell that story. If someone buys a reliced guitar because it gives off a vintage or pawnshop vibe and plays like a beast, I see no problem with it. I can't see walking away from a great guitar or deal because someone at Fender rubbed some sandpaper on the guitar.
So if a new player bought this guitar used at a pawn shop and the story and history are not his own is he being a fraud and a poser somehow?
Could do with a coat of paint or two
ehdwuld
A Ficus
instrument worn in by artists are specific to that artist
the artist hand has adapted to that neck as much as the neck has worn to match the hand
the only benefit to a relic'd guitar is to that artist
who finds them selves out on the road and the instrument is unavailable
they can pop into a local music shop and get an exact copy of said instrument
Chrissie Hind? the girl from the Pretenders told a story of getting her signature guitar at a local shop for a gig
I love the feel of a worn in neck
doesnt matter to be if I wore it in or not
the edges are rounded the back is smooth
just tucks into the hand so nicely and feels wonderful
I can mimic that on most any neck
we all have with our new guitar neck routines of sanding the back of the neck and rolling the fretboard edges
I read Securb's post on his ritual dozens of times
and that sense of satisfaction he gets when completed
I might get a relic to hang on the wall and look at
but I love a good player
the artist hand has adapted to that neck as much as the neck has worn to match the hand
the only benefit to a relic'd guitar is to that artist
who finds them selves out on the road and the instrument is unavailable
they can pop into a local music shop and get an exact copy of said instrument
Chrissie Hind? the girl from the Pretenders told a story of getting her signature guitar at a local shop for a gig
I love the feel of a worn in neck
doesnt matter to be if I wore it in or not
the edges are rounded the back is smooth
just tucks into the hand so nicely and feels wonderful
I can mimic that on most any neck
we all have with our new guitar neck routines of sanding the back of the neck and rolling the fretboard edges
I read Securb's post on his ritual dozens of times
and that sense of satisfaction he gets when completed
I might get a relic to hang on the wall and look at
but I love a good player
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
So my new used guitar has that "reliced" look. The black is totally worn off the pickups and bridge giving the look that the guitar has been played hard. This is the condition I bought it in. Am I a poser because I didn't put the wear on the guitar myself. Should I have left a great deal on the shelve because I didn't contribute to the wear and tear on the guitar? Should I repaint the bridge and pickups to bring them back to an unreliced look?
weepingminotaur
Well-known member
Feels like you're being tongue in cheek here. Clearly it's fine because even if you didn't put in the wear, someone else did. That wear got you a deal, which is great.
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
So if I found a factory reliced Fender 40% off what would be different in buying that guitar?
weepingminotaur
Well-known member
The important point there is 40% off, not factory-reliced. If you got a Fender at 40% off, godspeed, reliced or not.
I'd at least give them a good scrubbing.
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Best just to check if it's still under warranty and send it back to the factory to have them fix it
Securb
One of Jerry's Kids
I am going to take the covers off. If they are not potted, I might leave them off. I plan on hitting them with some paint stripper once they are off to avoid getting scuff marks on them.
warrantys usually only apply to the initial purchaser, and i cant imagine they would cover such cosmetic things regardless.
keep it and play it, a good deal is a good deal! dont over think it man
Fender_Punk
BerriesAndCreamologist
I'm personally not a fan of relic'd guitars.
As much as it's cool to see a guitar with natural wear and tear, I'm even more impressed when I see a 40+ year old guitar that's still in good condition with minimal paint/finish damage.
But I also buy new jeans that look brand new.
As much as it's cool to see a guitar with natural wear and tear, I'm even more impressed when I see a 40+ year old guitar that's still in good condition with minimal paint/finish damage.
But I also buy new jeans that look brand new.
