Thomas-ginex Fret leveling system review

kmcguitars

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You may have saw these on ebay for around $20 Fuhgeduboutit!


1st thing that occurred to me. When you insert the string lift bar at the nut and tune to 440. Doesn't this create MORE relief than under normal conditions?? Alright,If so just tune down a 1/2 step or so.

2nd- IT'S FLAT ! If they had gone the extra mile and offered it in different popular Radius's? This could be a keeper. Or even go the cheesy way and make it bendable to contour your board. So when your leveling, You have to be mindful of this. With the 320 grit Emory cloth they supply you with, Well if ya don't know what your doing you could turn your neck into a fret less wonder real quick.:smack:

3rd- Crowning the frets. They refer to this as `Peaking' . For this they supply you with 500 grit Emory cloth. After you have tapped off the fretboard ( Yes, they Do suggest this :D) They want you to rub along the fret with the notch in the plate . (tilting if necessary:laugh2: ) I guess this could work? But a crowning file, fine steel wool and a dremel with a buffing pad work a whole bunch better.:13:

In conclusion, If you have a El cheapo guitar and a Clue? This could be a better alternative than taking a $200 guitar for a $100+ Pro setup. Most guitars made in the orient are notorious for having soft fret wire. So this Lil' gizmo could help put some life back in it. But keep this away from any Quality guitar you own. The shortest distance between A & B is a straight line. Take it to a Pro and pay the piper. Get it done Right...The 1st time.:)
 
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Its pretty much what I suspected! Thank you very much for clueing us in to exactly what this thing does or dosent do!
 
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Yeah, I remember posting a question about this product when I first saw it on Ebay. I wonder how many guys have screwed up their expensive guitar by doing it unevenly?

When I was a kid, I tried scalloping a fretboard with a dremel tool, and learned the hard way. I ended up throwing a neck in the trash after it warped unevenly.
 
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I came upon this old review by chance while googling info on the T-G system. I am a repeat user and proponent of their method and question the sincerity and credibility of the reviewer. It's obvious from his ID (he's a repairman by trade) and erroneous description of how it works that his review is flawed and biased. The results I've had with the kits have been superb and they have saved me tons of money by allowing me to do my own fretwork. The following link has a real review by a truly unbiased user:
http://reviews.photoweborama.com/allthingsguitar1/fret/fret.htm

There are others and they can be found all over the net. I also would be remiss if I didn't mention that the ebay feedback record for this company is awesome. Over 3500 positives and not a single negative. That's next to impossible to achieve.

So my advice to anyone who by chance reaches this thread is that they take the review of this product given by kcmguitars with a grain of salt. It's so obviously biased and so far from the truth it's almost laughable.
 
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gee, 1st post is to defend a cheap ebay product that a long time member has just confirmed is a bunch of nonsense.

mgfretman...could you possibly be associated with said cheap ebay product?
 
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gee, 1st post is to defend a cheap ebay product that a long time member has just confirmed is a bunch of nonsense.

mgfretman...could you possibly be associated with said cheap ebay product?

Like it couldn't be more obvious...

Sorry mgfretman, but I trust the guys on here before I trust some eBay reviews, kmcguitars knows what he is talking about (he is a known and reputable member) and anyone on this forum or from the internet who finds this thread would be wise to listen to him.
 
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gee, 1st post is to defend a cheap ebay product that a long time member has just confirmed is a bunch of nonsense.

mgfretman...could you possibly be associated with said cheap ebay product?


just confirmed...hahaha...he dug this thread up from 2006. it's obvious he has an affiliation with the company because no average Joe would go on a forum and start off with their first post trying to defend an obviously poor product.

if you search his name via google you can see that for years on various guitar and bass forums he's been pushing this product.


-Mike
 
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Hey, the kit does what it says it´s supposed to do :D

http://reviews.photoweborama.com/allthingsguitar1/fret/fret.htm said:
What this kit does is challenge the idea as to what is considered a good fret dressing job.

:chairfall:laugh2:
 
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like it couldn't be more obvious...

Sorry mgfretman, but i trust the guys on here before i trust some ebay reviews, kcm knows what he is talking about (he is a known and reputable member) and anyone on this forum or from the internet who finds this thread would be wise to listen to him.

+1
 
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Good thing that mgfretman dug up this thread to defend the product. If he hadn't, I might not ever have known to avoid it.
 
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I came upon this old review by chance while googling info on the T-G system. I am a repeat user and proponent of their method and question the sincerity and credibility of the reviewer. It's obvious from his ID (he's a repairman by trade) and erroneous description of how it works that his review is flawed and biased. The results I've had with the kits have been superb and they have saved me tons of money by allowing me to do my own fretwork. The following link has a real review by a truly unbiased user:

There are others and they can be found all over the net. I also would be remiss if I didn't mention that the ebay feedback record for this company is awesome. Over 3500 positives and not a single negative. That's next to impossible to achieve.

So my advice to anyone who by chance reaches this thread is that they take the review of this product given by kcmguitars with a grain of salt. It's so obviously biased and so far from the truth it's almost laughable.
:rolleyes::laugh2: What a Pissa! :laugh2::laugh2: 1st off.. IT'S KMCguitars get the name right if you want some creditability around here smartypants.:ok: Last year a buddy came to me with a Epi G-400 he just got off the bay. He asked me to look at it, Cuz' it didn't feel right. 1st thing I noticed was very light striations in the frets! Next thing... ALL THE FRETS HAD NO CROWN ! It was painfully obvious to me that someone had used this product in a inappropriate way.:eyecrazy: So I recrowned the frets & polished em' back up with some #0000 steel wool. My buddy is now a happy camper.:D Yes, The product does what they say it can do. BUT, If your a Pro Tech ,Or aspiring Tech? Just stick to the traditional tools. This product should be classified for a novice w/t a clue ONLY! I wonder out of them 3500 positives, How many destroyed their frets with this toy?:oops:
Need a grain of salt mgfretman? BEND OVER!:naughty:
 
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This mgfretman guy is a total card!:lmao::ban: There is a Luther from Jacksonville who does some amazing work named Ron Kirn. Ron pretty much blows holes though the T-G fret system for what it is. You really can't argue with Ron's work or creditability. So I feel vindicated. :D Mike is correct, This screwball is all over the net hawking this crap, And stirring up the poop on many other forum's. To bad he found his way here.:28: Click this link and see.:cool2:http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mgfretman
 
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LOL @ some twat w/ 1 post trying to question the credibility of someone who's been active here since 2004...
 
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Hahaha what a POS thing.....nobody in his right mind would use that crap!!
Funny how Dan at Stewmac uses a 4 inch sanding block to level a guitar....it's all on video. Click here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOloalsCVAY
Is a long sanding beam better.....yes....but it can be done. Especially for touch ups. You don't have to use a radius block....the frets are already radiused on the fingerboard.
It's not really for a refret....it's for light touch ups. I can be used to get a high fret down close to the others on refret....instead of hitting all the frets you can hit a local area...get it close than use the long beam on the whole neck...there will usually be a couple frets that are a little high on a refret.....that way you don't lower all the frets with a long bar trying to lower the one high one.
 
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Dan Erlewine could level frets with a road grader.
 
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