thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
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beaubrummels
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
Hollowbodies feedback. Semi-hollow not so much. Solid bodies have more sustain. Either can be made to sound 'like' the other with electronic and hardware changes. Hollowbodies can be big and uncomfortable, but they can also be used unplugged as an acoustic and sound good.
What specifically are you trying to find out?
Hollowbodies feedback. Semi-hollow not so much. Solid bodies have more sustain. Either can be made to sound 'like' the other with electronic and hardware changes. Hollowbodies can be big and uncomfortable, but they can also be used unplugged as an acoustic and sound good.
What specifically are you trying to find out?
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
thanks beaubrummels...anything u tell me is heplful, seeing as i dont know that much atm...
really i was just wondering if there maybe was some big difference that i was ttly unaware of....seems like there isnt
more specifically, what started the idea off was seeing an Epiphone Blueshawk on Gear4Music http://www.gear4music.com/search/?str_search_phrase=blueshawk....reduced price ....i am fairly low-budgeted unfortunately....
thanks beaubrummels...anything u tell me is heplful, seeing as i dont know that much atm...
really i was just wondering if there maybe was some big difference that i was ttly unaware of....seems like there isnt
more specifically, what started the idea off was seeing an Epiphone Blueshawk on Gear4Music http://www.gear4music.com/search/?str_search_phrase=blueshawk....reduced price ....i am fairly low-budgeted unfortunately....
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
I got a compromise semi hollow
My Epi Florentine
I always loved the jazzy big box sounds
Ted Nugent and those crazy Birdlands
You tube Ted's "lesson" from last October
I just watched it this morning
Anyways his Birdlands an White Buffalo guitars are full hollow
A 335 style is semi hollow
And the 339 & my Florentine are solid bodies with cavities
My Florentine Les Paul doesn't sound like a Les Paul
Or a 335
Somewhere between
I got a compromise semi hollow
My Epi Florentine
I always loved the jazzy big box sounds
Ted Nugent and those crazy Birdlands
You tube Ted's "lesson" from last October
I just watched it this morning
Anyways his Birdlands an White Buffalo guitars are full hollow
A 335 style is semi hollow
And the 339 & my Florentine are solid bodies with cavities
My Florentine Les Paul doesn't sound like a Les Paul
Or a 335
Somewhere between
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
Kriby15, got any local shops? If so, go check out some semi's and hollows. If you do, check out the larger bodied type semi's, not just the smaller bodies. Play whatever you can, plugged and unplugged. That will give you a good sense of what they are about and whether it's your thing.
Kriby15, got any local shops? If so, go check out some semi's and hollows. If you do, check out the larger bodied type semi's, not just the smaller bodies. Play whatever you can, plugged and unplugged. That will give you a good sense of what they are about and whether it's your thing.
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
I wanted a Byrdland. Isn't likely to happen but I still crave one every now and then. Always have since seeing and hearing Nugent wailing on them back in the 70's.
I wanted a Byrdland. Isn't likely to happen but I still crave one every now and then. Always have since seeing and hearing Nugent wailing on them back in the 70's.
Dave Locher
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
Nah, you just cut the pickup lead near the pickup and solder the new pickup to the old lead. I did it that way several times in the past and always thought of it as a bit of a hack job but StewMac has a video from Dan Erlwine showing how to do exactly that!
I like hollows and semi-hollows but true hollow bodies do give a howling feedback with gain and/or volume and they don't sustain as well, but damn they look cool and sound good. A good 335, thought this, gives great sustain and great tone.
Nah, you just cut the pickup lead near the pickup and solder the new pickup to the old lead. I did it that way several times in the past and always thought of it as a bit of a hack job but StewMac has a video from Dan Erlwine showing how to do exactly that!
I like hollows and semi-hollows but true hollow bodies do give a howling feedback with gain and/or volume and they don't sustain as well, but damn they look cool and sound good. A good 335, thought this, gives great sustain and great tone.
Boogie Bill
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
While my main guitars are G&L Legacys (strat bodies), I also have a big collection of Gibson Les Pauls and 335s. I have both solid and chambered Pauls. I use Mesa amps, and my band is based on classic rock, blues, country and a little jazz. No punk, no metal.
And lately, I can tell you that I'm using the 335s more than the Les Pauls. For what I do, that little bit of extra sweetness of the 335 is a perfect compliment to the single coil chime of the Legacys. It is a very versatile guitar.
In my youth I owned an ES-330 long neck and an ES-150DCN. Both fully hollow. Feedback was an issue with both guitars, but I LOVED the snarl of the 330's P-90s.
If you're on a budget, consider Epi Casinos, Rivieras or Sheratons, or the outstanding Ibanez clones. I also have an Ibanez Artstar and I love it.
Bill
While my main guitars are G&L Legacys (strat bodies), I also have a big collection of Gibson Les Pauls and 335s. I have both solid and chambered Pauls. I use Mesa amps, and my band is based on classic rock, blues, country and a little jazz. No punk, no metal.
And lately, I can tell you that I'm using the 335s more than the Les Pauls. For what I do, that little bit of extra sweetness of the 335 is a perfect compliment to the single coil chime of the Legacys. It is a very versatile guitar.
In my youth I owned an ES-330 long neck and an ES-150DCN. Both fully hollow. Feedback was an issue with both guitars, but I LOVED the snarl of the 330's P-90s.
If you're on a budget, consider Epi Casinos, Rivieras or Sheratons, or the outstanding Ibanez clones. I also have an Ibanez Artstar and I love it.
Bill
Thundermtn
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
Don't be scared to try a Washburn hb30 or hb35, semi hollow, good tone and really versatile.
Don't be scared to try a Washburn hb30 or hb35, semi hollow, good tone and really versatile.
beaubrummels
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
If you are replacing the whole works, the pickup route is a little too far to get the pots back into their holes. You need to get in through the F-hole to help line up the pot shafts. Even if you use a string or wire to help pull them through, you still have to get that string or wire started through the hole for the pot shaft.
If you are replacing the whole works, the pickup route is a little too far to get the pots back into their holes. You need to get in through the F-hole to help line up the pot shafts. Even if you use a string or wire to help pull them through, you still have to get that string or wire started through the hole for the pot shaft.
chadd
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
I've had issues with my 335 feeding back at time because of our volume at rehearsals and the other guitar player's Gretsch is totally out of the question. Unfortunately, thatso the price you pay with a heavy handed drummer and a painfully loud bass player.
I've had issues with my 335 feeding back at time because of our volume at rehearsals and the other guitar player's Gretsch is totally out of the question. Unfortunately, thatso the price you pay with a heavy handed drummer and a painfully loud bass player.
VinceT
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
One thing that's not been mentioned. On semi-hollows, the bridge is fixed into the center block, so set-up/intonation is the same as solid-bodied. On hollows/arch-tops, the bridge is traditionally floating, I.e. It can move back or forward from tailpiece to neck, and up and down from top to bottom. As you can imagine, the latter can be really tough on intonation and setup, especially if you use light strings, where a single hard strum can move the bridge. You'll now see some manufacturers (Gretsch) advertising center pinned bridges, which means they've fixed them to the top to avoid this problem.
I'll put a nod in for Reverend's semi-hollows - the Tricky Gomez is great.
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One thing that's not been mentioned. On semi-hollows, the bridge is fixed into the center block, so set-up/intonation is the same as solid-bodied. On hollows/arch-tops, the bridge is traditionally floating, I.e. It can move back or forward from tailpiece to neck, and up and down from top to bottom. As you can imagine, the latter can be really tough on intonation and setup, especially if you use light strings, where a single hard strum can move the bridge. You'll now see some manufacturers (Gretsch) advertising center pinned bridges, which means they've fixed them to the top to avoid this problem.
I'll put a nod in for Reverend's semi-hollows - the Tricky Gomez is great.
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
ok....interesting abt the P-90's....cos that Epi i mentioned earlier has P-90s
ok....interesting abt the P-90's....cos that Epi i mentioned earlier has P-90s
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
those r epiphone P-90s that is....dunno if theres a difference?
those r epiphone P-90s that is....dunno if theres a difference?
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
You really have to play a few and do it for a while to get the feel. Hollowbodies give a responsive playing experience that semis cannot replicate. A good hollowbody archtop is a thing of beauty to play.
hey all....i'm a younger player, and looking around for a new guitar.....and wanting to know the thoughts about hollowbody and semihollowbody electrics are....? tone etc?
maybe this is a stupid question, and fairly open-ended i know, but hey!
You really have to play a few and do it for a while to get the feel. Hollowbodies give a responsive playing experience that semis cannot replicate. A good hollowbody archtop is a thing of beauty to play.
MkIII Renegade
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Re: thoughts on hollowbodys guys...?
Look up interviews/discussions/demos with a bloke named Steve Howe of Yes. He has always used these giant jazz box type guitars since the '70s when virtually everyone had either a Strat or LP only, but he made it work for him. There are limitations of gain/volume due to feeback, although I've heard of some people partially stuffing them.
Billy Duffy of The Cult used Gretsch White Falcons back in the day for very nice jangly cleanish sounds.
hey all....i'm a younger player, and looking around for a new guitar.....and wanting to know the thoughts about hollowbody and semihollowbody electrics are....? tone etc?
maybe this is a stupid question, and fairly open-ended i know, but hey!
Look up interviews/discussions/demos with a bloke named Steve Howe of Yes. He has always used these giant jazz box type guitars since the '70s when virtually everyone had either a Strat or LP only, but he made it work for him. There are limitations of gain/volume due to feeback, although I've heard of some people partially stuffing them.
Billy Duffy of The Cult used Gretsch White Falcons back in the day for very nice jangly cleanish sounds.