Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

[Pierre]

Basically the way I see it, a TS' tone section would be neutral when the tone is at 0 (so to be used as a clean boost) but would boost treble as the tone control is pushed up. So the tone section would need a JET or whatever to be used as a separate boost right?

The overall sound would be tailored to be rather transparent, and of course level would control clean boost amount and gain the usual clipping section...

Is this at all possible?

 

[Artie]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

Yeah, but you're walking a thin line between semantics and electronics. First off, boost and gain are the same thing. If you "boost" a signal, you're increasing the gain.

Lets take a simple example. You purposely install a pup thats brighter than you normally prefer. Say, a JB for instance. Then you select a tone cap and pot that are such that you keep the tone control at "5" as its normal position. Then you run into a Duncan SFX-01 pup booster. You can boost the signal until you overdrive the input of your amp. (For effectively more gain.) And you can roll the tone pot up to bring in more treble boost.

See . . . same thing with ordinary guitar wiring and "stuff".

Edit: I hope I was in the ballpark of what you were asking.

 

[Pierre]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

Sorry... I mean...The 'level' control on any pedals can be used to control the overall loudness of it, right? If it's loud enough, it'll kick the front end. If you keep factors such as compression or gain to (ideally) 0, you get the effects of the volume boost in front of the gain with as little as the actual clipping/compression/whatever. Right..? Or am I totally off haha?

I don't know how a treble booster works... Is it a booster with a notch in the high frequencies, or does it boost high frequencies? I.e does the extra highs come from your amp or from your pedal..?

 

[nebucanazza]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

The treble booster selectively boosts the higher frequencies. Usually it will have unity gain for your lowest bass note(80Hz) with the gain increasing for higher frequencies. Also, the Ge transistor in a Rangemaster imparts its own unique flavour to the sound.

Clean boosts will not favour any particular frequency as such, and ideally should provide equal gain over a wide frequency range. Thus, it won't colour your sound, but only make it louder.The traditional TS circuit is designed to cut off a lot of the bass and the higher highs, leading to 'mid boost' sound.

If you are looking for a versatile booster, this one might interest you:
http://runoffgroove.com/omega.html

 

[Pierre]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

I'm not really looking for anything. For my clean boosts I mod a SD1 and that's better than most things I tried so far.

I was just wondering if it's possible to have clean and treble boost as well as some clipping in a simple pedal basically.

 

[jony]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

I woukd tend to think any pedal does that... If you want treble boost, turn the tone knob all the way up... it isn't the same as other treble boosters but it sort of relies on the same principle.

How you define clean boost is also going to matter here. Some people define it as adding no colouration to the tone at all, and others just mean that there is hardly any "hair" or "gain" in the pedal's output.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

My modded DS-1 does that more or less. I kinda went nuts with it, and it now has way more output with the level control than stock, and the tone control is more like a bass control. If it's set to maximum, it has a very trebley sound. With the drive control on 0, there is NO distortion whatsoever.

 

[Marcel]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

I wouldn't call a tubescreamer neutral no matter where the tone knob is. It cut some bass or boosts the mids! A TS colors the sound much imo

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

It just has bottomend removed and the highs filtered as well...
Plus the lo-fi junky 4558 maybe low noise...but it is a fairly flat(2d) sounding chip...dunno...never liked ts drive much.
Treble boost is more like uppermidboost...as there is little treble in guitars as it is
Try a passive and different midrange shifter, can go from piercing cardboard mids to cow moohings
Still use the normal tonecontrl circuit.
Only drawback...it sucks alot of volume.

 

[Pierre]

Re: Three in one OD: boost, gain and treble booster (on TS circuit?)

I wouldn't call a tubescreamer neutral no matter where the tone knob is. It cut some bass or boosts the mids! A TS colors the sound much imo

That's because it's not. But it's a simple circuit with level, gain and tone (as I'd like) and I'm more familiar with it than others. It's also rather easy to turn it into a transparent OD.