Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

[dave74]

http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/mark-holcomb-omega-trembucker
(scroll down slightly)

Is this standard on the Alpha/Omega production runs or just as an option when it was custom-shop?
Can the Distortion, Custom or Full Shred be ordered as such with 3/side WITHOUT going custom-shop?

The full-shred dimensions (which is what it goes to from the omega page) match up exactly with my extra carvin bezels.

 

[dystrust]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/mark-holcomb-omega-trembucker
(scroll down slightly)

Is this standard on the Alpha/Omega production runs or just as an option when it was custom-shop?
Can the Distortion, Custom or Full Shred be ordered as such with 3/side WITHOUT going custom-shop?

The full-shred dimensions (which is what it goes to from the omega page) match up exactly with my extra carvin bezels.

AFAIK all trembuckers have base plates w/ 3 holes per side.

 

[dave74]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

AFAIK all trembuckers have base plates w/ 3 holes per side.

I do hope this is true!

 

[dave74]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Maybe Mincer or Riley could clarify this tomorrow. When I look at various model trembuckers it seems to show both ways.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup...lug=humbucker&taxonomy=pickup-types&order_by=

 

[RandomToneGuy]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Maybe Mincer or Riley could clarify this tomorrow. When I look at various model trembuckers it seems to show both ways.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...em_page.rr1|CategorySiloedPurchaseCP?pfm=ac-a

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acce...earch_page.rr1|RecentHistoricalItems?pfm=ac-a

Yes and no. It may be a standard on certain trembuckers, but it, as not if that's the only version the come in? I'm guessing, but my distortion mayhem that came stock on, y Jackson has 3 hole mounting legs. It should be standard though. In the old days people used to offset their humbuckersdiagnoally forfeited android rise bridge systems or variations of their spacing. And then height adjust to compensate for the magnets not lining up. On lower out put models this would have mattered a lot more, but on high put put models without slugs it doesn't, at least not as much unless it's such a good pickup that it can tell the difference.

Nowadays it's more about either fitting those pockets or Asterix reasons. However in the world of multisvales ot may after a little more. For the would districts being on a longer scale than the bridge, although I would only see that useful o. A Steinbeck, not that I know that much. I've probably openeda can of worms.

More experienced members feel free to correct me.

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[LtKojak]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

When I look at various model trembuckers it seems to show both ways.

Dave, what you see is the SD site being broken and never fixed.

There's only ONE Trembucker baseplate: the design has three holes, but only the one in the middle is threaded. The design is proprietary, so only Duncan covers can be used.

HTH,

 

[dave74]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Dave, what you see is the SD site being broken and never fixed.

There's only ONE Trembucker baseplate: the design has three holes, but only the one in the middle is threaded. The design is proprietary, so only Duncan covers can be used.

HTH,

ah,,,,,,,drats
Well maybe then as a production floor-custom all 3 tops could be threaded ,,,,,,,,,,but then it's through my local dealer which means upcharge+tax+no 10-15% anytime i want lol.. not to mention a 50-60m round trip or two which is time and fuel on top. Getting well over $100 then. hhmmm



sorry guys, to make mountains out of mole hills,
I'd just seen some of the stock pics and thought: "Wow SD is doing the three/side thing standard now on some/all models for the sake of compatibility", which would sort of make sense due to the fact that the P.B. is offered as an upgrade in-house Carvin option.

Well they must (?) thread the units shipped to Carvin for bezel-mount right?

 

[Mincer]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Yeah, those other holes aren't threaded. It is one of those things where there isn't a standard among pickup makers. You can change the baseplate, or figure something else out.

 

[dave74]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Yeah, those other holes aren't threaded. It is one of those things where there isn't a standard among pickup makers. You can change the baseplate, or figure something else out.

Well what a tease! lol

I've just always hated the way open coils look in a squared-off ring (one that works with covers), which is all I seem to find when searching all the main parts stores. The pickup ends up with all that extra/empty space around them which looks stupid IMO.

Carvin's bezels are more form-fitted and have rounded edges, are matte-black, and are more heavy-duty plastic (if there is such a thing lol).

It's absolutely no problem to modify the ring itself with a center hole on top, which is what I've done already on a couple, then they work with any brand ,,,,,,,,,but then you don't have that locked-in thing + tilt-control.

Honestly i don't understand why the pickup brands don't offer all their main models with an included fitted-ring like the Dimebucker.?

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Honestly i don't understand why the pickup brands don't offer all their main models with an included fitted-ring like the Dimebucker.?

What are you talking about? Duncan include screws, springs and either a neck or bridge p'up ring (depending if it's a neck or bridge p'up model) inside every retail box, with the exception of Trembucker and Parallel-Axis p'ups, which includes a matching, flat p'up ring.

For the record, the three-screw ring and p'up was adopted by the Japanese (Yamaha comes to mind) and German (Schaller comes to mind) makers since the late 70s. From the american manufacturers, only very few sporadically offered this design (Seth Lover made for Fender Wide Range HBs come to mind) but only Carvin seemed to have followed function-over-form, and not being held down by the stupid concept of "vintage correctness" or "period correctness", like it was a "desirable" or even good thing!

A very big percentage of guitar players don't even deserve the gift of having opposable thumbs!

 

[Silence Kid]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Fender still uses three-hole/side, but I guess the spacing is diff. vs. a trembucker... I imagine it's not hard to thread the holes on an SD, but I haven't. Agree it's a "better" design, but annoying to have unused holes in the pickguard or ring.

 

[dave74]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

What are you talking about? Duncan include screws, springs and either a neck or bridge p'up ring (depending if it's a neck or bridge p'up model) inside every retail box, with the exception of Trembucker and Parallel-Axis p'ups, which includes a matching, flat p'up ring.

Well it would sure be nice if they would show them somewhere then! lol (like show the pickup mounted in it's ring,,,,,like they do the Dimebucker)
Are they form-fitted like the Dimebuckers? I'm betting not.

Do you see what I mean by form-fitted? Like there's little or no space between the pup and the ring,,,,no big gap.

And why would they send flat-rings with bridge trembuckers?
I always like my bridge rings to be the medium heights that way the pickup isn't sticking waaaay up out of the ring.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/accessories/all

I only see the triple shot rings which just look like those crappy all-parts rings, except the have the triple-shot thing.



Just to clarify here;
My "problem" isn't finding rings (got plenty of them in various sizes, metal and cheapo plastics), or finding a way to mount non-carvin pups in my carvin rings. Got that whipped.

Just wanting/hoping they (the main brands) would see how darned functional the carvin mounting system is and how much classier their bezels make the guitar look,,,,,,,,,IMO lol.

On the SD custom-shop page they specifically note that the slug comes with a custom-fitted ring,,,,,,,,which leads one to assume that when it's not noted that rings are not included.

 

[AlexR]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Humbucker covers are another area where there is no standard. So the outer size can be different as well as screw hole locations - based on the origin of the guitar.

Then you have the colour bit
Then you have the height of the ring
Then you have flat bottom vs curved bottom
It a problem that tend to have few winners

 

[akio]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

What are you talking about? Duncan include screws, springs and either a neck or bridge p'up ring (depending if it's a neck or bridge p'up model) inside every retail box, with the exception of Trembucker and Parallel-Axis p'ups, which includes a matching, flat p'up ring.

Is this some kind of European deal? In America, I've never had a Duncan (except my PATB set) arrive with a pickup ring, just screws and springs.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Three screw/side mounting legs on Omega?

Is this some kind of European deal? In America, I've never had a Duncan (except my PATB set) arrive with a pickup ring, just screws and springs.

I think I've misspoken: I've checked my records, and the RETAIL box of certain models (Trembuckers and PATBs, Antiquity and Seth Lovers) had the p'up rings. The same one, flat, for the Trembuckers and PATBs and either a neck or bridge slanted p'up ring, curved bottom, in the case of Ants and Seths. I don't have a record of other more common models having the p'up ring. However, I rarely buy RETAIL boxes; my customers do. But that prevents me to receive untouched, closed retail p'up boxes.

So, I stand corrected about the p'up ring with in EVERY p'up box. I can confirm only in the case of Ants and Seths. Also, when I buy in bulk, screws and springs are provided, but no box.

I hope this will clarify things.

HTH,