Quencho092
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im really interested in learning how to play jazz guitar. can someone give me a crash course, or a quick jazz chord prog. with 7th chords (just the letters and measures) maybe some tips on leads and how to break scale habits.
tips on how to learn jazz styles
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Bludave
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
My recommendation would be:
1. Buy yourself a chord melody book. This will teach you to play chords, bass lines, and melodies all at the same time. I am currently working on this myself.
2. Take lessons. Find a competent teacher, or someone who you have heard play and admire there playing. It is important when working with a teacher that they ub=nderstand what you want to learn, and that you can communicate well with.
My recommendation would be:
1. Buy yourself a chord melody book. This will teach you to play chords, bass lines, and melodies all at the same time. I am currently working on this myself.
2. Take lessons. Find a competent teacher, or someone who you have heard play and admire there playing. It is important when working with a teacher that they ub=nderstand what you want to learn, and that you can communicate well with.
KirkLorange
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
The best advice I can give to get away from sounding like you're just playing scales and modes is to concentrate on chord tones, which are of course, those notes that make up chords. So for, say, a 7th chord, those tones are the 1-3-5-b7-9; a minor 7 is 1-b3-5-b7; Augmented is 1-3-#5 etc.
Once you can see the way these notes (numbers) scatter themselves the length of the fretboard, they can become your main melody notes. All 12 are eligible, but only chord tones should fall on the strong beats.
That, and remember that interesting solos/improvisations are those that are melodic. Melody is not one continuous, linear, series of notes. Melody is a series of phrases. Phrases begin and end; I like to see them as short excursions away from and back home. Home is any old chord tone.
If you really know the chords, and you can see their tones the length of the fretboard, then you can see the outlines of an infinity of 'good' melodies.
Have a look at http://www.thatllteachyou.com/improv.html which is a promo page for a book I wrote (don't worry, Evan Skopp is a (new) friend of mine, he won't mind me mentioning it). You'll see how a difficult chord progression can be navigated with ease if you're thinking chords rather than scales. Chords are a kind of more detailed, tailored to the moment, look at scales ... scales/modes are 'too much information' when seeking melody.
To me anyway, that's my advice, but we all have our own way of thinking about things ... happy twanging!
Kirk
The best advice I can give to get away from sounding like you're just playing scales and modes is to concentrate on chord tones, which are of course, those notes that make up chords. So for, say, a 7th chord, those tones are the 1-3-5-b7-9; a minor 7 is 1-b3-5-b7; Augmented is 1-3-#5 etc.
Once you can see the way these notes (numbers) scatter themselves the length of the fretboard, they can become your main melody notes. All 12 are eligible, but only chord tones should fall on the strong beats.
That, and remember that interesting solos/improvisations are those that are melodic. Melody is not one continuous, linear, series of notes. Melody is a series of phrases. Phrases begin and end; I like to see them as short excursions away from and back home. Home is any old chord tone.
If you really know the chords, and you can see their tones the length of the fretboard, then you can see the outlines of an infinity of 'good' melodies.
Have a look at http://www.thatllteachyou.com/improv.html which is a promo page for a book I wrote (don't worry, Evan Skopp is a (new) friend of mine, he won't mind me mentioning it). You'll see how a difficult chord progression can be navigated with ease if you're thinking chords rather than scales. Chords are a kind of more detailed, tailored to the moment, look at scales ... scales/modes are 'too much information' when seeking melody.
To me anyway, that's my advice, but we all have our own way of thinking about things ... happy twanging!
Kirk
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seafoamer
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
Listen to the jazz greats all fu6kin' day!!!!!Coltrane, Monk, Miles, Sonny Rollins, Louis Armstrong, Charlie parker, Dizzy, Benny Goodman, Ellington & band etc, etc etc!!!
oh, & Listen to some Antonio Carlos jobim too
Listen to the jazz greats all fu6kin' day!!!!!Coltrane, Monk, Miles, Sonny Rollins, Louis Armstrong, Charlie parker, Dizzy, Benny Goodman, Ellington & band etc, etc etc!!!
oh, & Listen to some Antonio Carlos jobim too
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seafoamer
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
Then listen to some Jazz gtrists: Wes Montgomery, jim Hall, Joe Pass, Django, my all time favorite "Charlie Christian", Kenny Burrell, Grant green, pat metheny etc
No sense playing a style u haven't listened to.
It would be like trying to play baseball without ever watching a game.
Then listen to some Jazz gtrists: Wes Montgomery, jim Hall, Joe Pass, Django, my all time favorite "Charlie Christian", Kenny Burrell, Grant green, pat metheny etc
No sense playing a style u haven't listened to.
It would be like trying to play baseball without ever watching a game.
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seafoamer
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
A then listen some more.
A then listen some more.
Alvin Lee Fan
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
Bludave, I'm looking around for some chord melody stuff. What book did you get and how do you like it?Bludave said:
TwilightOdyssey
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
The book you will need is called The Real Book. I studied jazz and classical guitar for 10 years. Nothing will replace taking progressive lessons from a good teacher, tho.
If you want a quick and easy chord progression, the most common one in Jazz is a ii-V- I progression. In C Maj that would be Dm7 - G7 - CMaj 7. Record this rhythm with a nice bebop drum machine line and then solo over top of it!
The book you will need is called The Real Book. I studied jazz and classical guitar for 10 years. Nothing will replace taking progressive lessons from a good teacher, tho.
If you want a quick and easy chord progression, the most common one in Jazz is a ii-V- I progression. In C Maj that would be Dm7 - G7 - CMaj 7. Record this rhythm with a nice bebop drum machine line and then solo over top of it!
kmcguitars
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
Danny Gatton had a great Video out called Strictly Rhythm. He shows you
chord comping and how to devolpe different chord voicings,And goes over
the rhythm styles of Grant Green and Bill Black. One of the coolist things
he does is show you how (useing your amps tremelo) to make your Guitar
sound like a Hammond B-3 !! He rolls his treble knob off on his guitar,Sets
the amps tremelo so it's pulseing 8th notes. Then he plays the keyboard
licks. Very cool stuff. i think you can still get it at hotlicks.com ?
Danny Gatton had a great Video out called Strictly Rhythm. He shows you
chord comping and how to devolpe different chord voicings,And goes over
the rhythm styles of Grant Green and Bill Black. One of the coolist things
he does is show you how (useing your amps tremelo) to make your Guitar
sound like a Hammond B-3 !! He rolls his treble knob off on his guitar,Sets
the amps tremelo so it's pulseing 8th notes. Then he plays the keyboard
licks. Very cool stuff. i think you can still get it at hotlicks.com ?
Quencho092
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Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
twilightodyssey, whats the basic rhythm for those chords, is it 12 bar blues style or otherwise?
twilightodyssey, whats the basic rhythm for those chords, is it 12 bar blues style or otherwise?
TwilightOdyssey
Darkness on the edge of Tone
Re: tips on how to learn jazz styles
No, not 12 bar at all; the progression doesn't lend itself to that kind of turnaround.Quencho092 said:
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