To all you rack-mount guys out there...

EET_FUK

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How's your rig? I've been interested rack stuff for awhile, but it always seemed overly complicated to me.

Lately I've been GASing for a Mesa Triaxis preamp. Any opinions on it?

What are the advantages/ disadvantages of rack vs just a head and a cab?

Anybody have experience with the Marshall JMP-1? How does that compare to the Mesa?

A lot of questions I know, but feel like I'm missing out on what could be a perfect setup for me.

Thanks for the replies guys. :headbang:
 
Re: To all you rack-mount guys out there...

Mesa Triaxis is better than a JMP-1, avoid the Mesa Formula, but give the Peavey Rockmaster a shot. (In fact, there's a used one in the Trading Forum right now. I'm almost tempted to grab it as a backup.) The Rocktron Piranha is also a good one.

Rackmount gear is a little more complex than just a head, but gives you more control, if that's what you're after. Also perfect for a studio setup, which is where my interests lie. Get a couple of differently set up power amps (6l6, EL34, solid state, etc) and you've got a ton of different tones available.
 
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I've owned , used exclusively the JMP-1 since they came out and I love it. In fact tomorrow I'm taking it to the UK guy from Voodoo amps to have the platinum mod done. Its going to be a very long 2 weeks waiting for it to come back. As far as I'm concerned there's no tone I can't get. Perfect.
 
Re: To all you rack-mount guys out there...

I currently use a Mesa/Boogie Triaxis (2.0 with the Rectifier circuit), a TC Electronic G-major, and a Mesa/Boogie 2:Ninety.

I previously used an Eventide GTR4000 for effects and a Mesa/Boogie Strategy 500 for the power amp. For a short time I used a Mosvalve power amp after selling the Strategy.

Starting with the Triaxis, it's great. The sounds I get are simply amazing. If you can try one out, set aside some time. It does take time to dial sounds, especially since it has buttons instead of knobs to turn. Patience is well rewarded. I would also be careful with the Dynamic Voice and Master Volume controls. Those have to be used sparingly and balanced with the power amp or effects unit input to prevent clipping. Additionally, the stock tubes on the input seemed a little harsh to me, so I experimented and ended up swapping the input tubes for something a bit smoother to my ears. I prefer the sound of mine to the current stock models, especially since I can still break out Mesa Recto sounds as the newer versions do not have that circuit.

I switched to using the TC G-major since, as amazing as some of the Eventide's effects (the pitch shift and phaser in partciular) were phenominal, the unit took forever to program, required sysEx MIDI control, and lacked any good controls for gating functions. The TC sounds amazing. I have the parametric three band EQ and a very slow low level noise gate engaged most of the time. I have single CC command access to delay, phaser, and mute/tune functions. The Rocktron MIDI Mate pairs really nicely with program change to switch Triaxis sounds while using the CC commands to switch the G-major effects on or off.

The 2:Ninety, though less pwerful and a touch less full sounding than the Strategy, is a beauty. It is more crisp and modern sounding than the Strategy, has the Modern function, has a better switching scheme for deep and half-drive than the Strategy, and is way the hell lighter. The Strategy 500 weighed as much as a small dump truck, but did sound amazing. The 2:Ninety just fits my needs a bit better overall.

The main concerns with choosing a rack system over a combo or amp head are versitility and grounding, IMO. It's nice being able to have the majority of my effects accessable via one compact controller, though if you were to use an amp head, you could easily put everything on one pedalboard. Most amp heads cannot produce as many different modes as the Triaxis, save maybe a Mark IV or Mark V head. Remember to ground everything to one point; either use the grounds on the plugs and isolate the units from the rack rails, or use the rack rails and lift the wired grounds on ALL units. Everything needs one path to ground, no more, no less, or you will have months of hum, buzz, and shock risk.

Hopefully that answers some of your questions. Rack systems can be more complicated, mine is fairly simple; preamp > effects > power amp. It works for me, YMMV.
 
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I have a Tri-Axis/2:90 as well. The Tri is a fantastic amp and can do virtually anything you want from great cleans to skull crushing metal. That's probably what I like most about it. Although mostly a hard rock/metal player, I do dabble in other styles and it is nice to have the flexibility. Also, when combined with an effects processor (I use an old Roland GP8 but lots use the G-Major) and midi board, you hit one button and get a new channel on the Tri and new effects if you want them. No pedal board dancing.

Overall, the Tri is just fantastic tonally. Boogie has a decent learning curve so reading the manual and following it is critical to dialing in good tones. However, once you get the hang of it its not too bad. Another plus, at least right now is cost. You can get a used Tri for $800 or so and a used 2:90 for about $600 or $700. For the amount of tones and versatility you get that's hard to beat.
 
Re: To all you rack-mount guys out there...

I've used rack gear almost exclusively for the last 18+ years, selling off all my pedals for a "does-it-all" Digitech GSP21 Pro (which I later upgraded to a Legend).

The biggest appeal to me at the time was the versatility. I could play along with my entire CD collection, ranging from Creedence Clearwater to vintage Alice Cooper to Iron Maiden to Metallica, and still only need one amp to do it.

As the years went on, I moved up to an ADA MP-1, which was designed by the guy who did the JMP-1 when ADA collapsed, as I understand it. While that unit is primarily a preamp only (gain and 3-band EQ), it pairs well with external fx units. I've used mine with a Digitech TSR12 for over 15 years, which has all the EQ (3 and 5-band Parametric and 15 band graphic) plus Chorus, Flange, Phase, Pitch shifter, Delays, and Reverbs.

I did use that pair when I was in a band, using the SS power section of a Fender RocPro1000 head through a Cavin VE212 cabinet, and it worked well. I couldn't adibe the ADA's "bare essentials" tone, so the TSR12's EQ really gave it that extra kick I wanted.

A couple/three years ago I got a Digitech 1101, which does "all that and more" and have been using that more lately than my ADA/TSR combo, but only do home recording at the moment.

Those units work really well with the ART X-15 pedalboard, since it's CCs and not system-specific like Digitech's pedals. If it can be linked via MIDI CC, the X-15 can do it, including effect on/off, or the various effect settings like volume, delay rate, chorus speed/depth, wah, etc.

A few months ago I started playing around with vsts in Audition, getting my sound card's latency adjusted. Amplitube 1 is doing me pretty good lately, but I'm not really using more than the basic amp functions for the stuff I'm currently working on.
 
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