To fatten my C5...

Re: To fatten my C5...

It almost sounds like he wants an Air Zone, or an overwound C5.

I thought somebody here had the Custom Shop wind their C5 to 15.5k or something like that to fatten it up.
 
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Yeah, I made an overwound Custom 5 nickel as my UGD pickup. It's 15.3K.
I have it in my LP Goldtop with a 59, and that LP sounds downright evil with it.
It's basically a C5 with a bit more mids and the highs are pulled back just a hair. Lew's post about the C5 needing to be a tad hotter is correct. I wish Duncan would make that tweak and reintrduce it as the C-5 or C-5+ IMO, it beats the Custom, CC, JB, and C5
 
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fab.regnaut said:
somebody (changliu?) said that if you shorten the pole pieces it make the p-u thicker , any thoughts about it , and why would it be true ?

It's true. Take a metal file and give it a try. It's a free mod and easily reversible if you don't like the sound and you have spare pole pieces laying around.

Shortening the pole pieces concentrates the magnetic field. Extending the field well below the baseplate as regular pole pieces do dilutes the magnetic field some by spreading it over a larger area. Shortening them shrinks the size of the magnetic field and makes it more concentrated and stronger.

Something else of interest -- Gibson pole pieces have bigger heads (slightly wider and almost twice as deep, much more mass) than Duncan poles and they add some beef to the tone too.
 
Re: To fatten my C5...

Lewguitar said:
I don't hear alnico 5 as being "scooped"...I don't like that description: it's to much of a cliche.

Sometimes cliches are true.

Lewguitar said:
But I do hear a5 as having a big, tight bass response and more highs and upper harmonics than most (but not all) alnico 2 humbuckers.

Isn't saying the same thing from a different frame of reference? It's not "scooped", it's just raised at both ends (bass and treble)?

Lewguitar said:
Alnico 4 in a humbucker can give it more mids than a5 but also more bite to the treble frequencies. Personally, I think a humbucker needs to be specially wound to compliment the alnico 4 magnet. Lindy Fralin does that and his humbuckers sound great, but I have some alnico 4 magnets that I got from Lindy and when the guys here tried them in thier Duncans a few thought the alnico 4 made the pickup a little harsh. IMO, that's because the pickups weren't voiced for alnico 4 from the get go.

Lew

To my ear, Alnico 5 is the "harshest" of the Alnico Bros. I'm not saying I dislike Alnico 5, far from it. For some pickups in certain guitars, it's the ideal magnet. I have one in my Seth Lover in my 355, and of course in my underwound Phat Cat.

Alnico 4 may sound "harsh" if the pickup had an Alnico 2 (or 3) in it to begin with, which means the wind (or the guitar it's in) is probably harsh to begin with so you can't blame the magnet. Because to my ear, A4 is like aged or smoother/mellower A5, a righteous vintage tone. It has a slight dip in the mids rather than A5's deep scoop. Yup, "scoop".
 
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