Tone of an Epiphone Hummingbird?

Aceman

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You knwo - the basic Epiphone Hummingbird copy. Not the Elitist. How does that guitar sound? Anyone?

Crap, decent, pretty good, amazing for the money? I have a particularly amusing reason for asking...
 
Re: Tone of an Epiphone Hummingbird?

Ain't horrible. Seemed a little duller than similar solid top/laminate backs I played when I was looking, and on par with the Yamaha f7somthing I bought for about 200 less.

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I'm more interested in your reason for asking.
 
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Granted I've only played a couple, but one was dull sounding and the other was as dead as a doornail.
 
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I'm sorry to say this but my experience with Epiphone acoustics has been that they aren't very "alive" sounding guitars. Some guitars, when you strum them, resonate a lot. You feel like the whole thing is working, it's all vibrating. My Jaguar feels this way which is why it was so hard for me to find a good "B" guitar, something I could substitute it with. My Gibson does it which is why I bought it, it gave me that loud ringing sound.

The Epiphone acoustic guitars that I've played have been different, they feel like the only things really vibrating are the strings themselves. They weren't very loud. I don't know... maybe I've played duds.
 
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It sounds like a laminated acoustic guitar, very flat. Most of their acoustic stuff in the lower end of the market isn't great.

I can't stress enough how amazing the Epiphone Masterbilt acoustics are, though. Mine resonates as well as pretty much any post 1970 Martin I've ever played, in fact, a guy who builds and sells $20,000 acoustics spent half an hour talking to me about it at a Christmas party, he couldn't believe it was an Epiphone. He said it was the nicest sounding guitar at the party (there were a lot of nice guitars there).
 
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Just got done a little jam with an acoustic guy. He wasn't digging my Ovation sound. Didn't like the "plastic" guitars.

He found a little spot in my kitchen with some hardwood floor and glass around. He them played some and said "Yeah - that's the sound...real woody...I only mic guitars. I use a Neuman"

I'm sitting there like, umm, yeah, it sounds different than my ovation, like wood. Actually, like thin plywood....

The Ovation, by the way, was going through a monte allums modded CS-3, a Zoom A2 set on D-28, and an Aphex Acoustic Exciter. Deep, clear, powerful.

Vs unplugged Epiphone Hummingbird copy. I'm not defnding the ultra natural wood tone of my Ovation, but seriously?

(and yeah - that Masterbilt and Elitist stuff is all amazing. every piece I've ever handled. LP's, 335's, and a couple of acoustics!)
 
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Just got done a little jam with an acoustic guy. He wasn't digging my Ovation sound. Didn't like the "plastic" guitars.

He found a little spot in my kitchen with some hardwood floor and glass around. He them played some and said "Yeah - that's the sound...real woody...I only mic guitars. I use a Neuman"

I'm sitting there like, umm, yeah, it sounds different than my ovation, like wood. Actually, like thin plywood....

The Ovation, by the way, was going through a monte allums modded CS-3, a Zoom A2 set on D-28, and an Aphex Acoustic Exciter. Deep, clear, powerful.

Vs unplugged Epiphone Hummingbird copy. I'm not defnding the ultra natural wood tone of my Ovation, but seriously?

(and yeah - that Masterbilt and Elitist stuff is all amazing. every piece I've ever handled. LP's, 335's, and a couple of acoustics!)

eh, if you're trying to compare with an acoustic guy who found a sweet spot to play his solid-top you're never going to win. Ever. Especially not with an Ovation, regardless of what you're running through. It's the same mojo stink that pedal, amp and axe snobs use to differentiate, categorize and ridicule. The contoured Ovation back just sounds piezo to a luddite any way you slice it.

Tell him to get some elixirs. I bought my Yamaha because the strings were coated and so it sounded the best out of all the guitars on the wall, including the Seagulls and A&Ls I was there to test and buy.
 
Re: Tone of an Epiphone Hummingbird?

most of the Acoustics I have played

newer "green" spruce tops sound lifeless and dull
as they "play in" they get much better

the epiphones I have played have all been of the older variety
sitting in someones closet or under the bed for years

new strings and they are a bit stiff but play in nicely

the best sounding epi I played was a DR100 or some such cheap one
owned by an old man who lived in Apartment 4
it was old and cheap and well played
sounded sweet as honey

old acoustics are revered for this sound
it has to do the the top and braces loosing up
this is why they started scalloping braces

the ovation is bonded to the back in a different manner
I had an old Applause with the round back and aluminum fretboard
it was a great creek bank guitar
but nothing more
 
Re: Tone of an Epiphone Hummingbird?

They all sound different. You've gotta play one to find out, since there is so much variation from copy to copy.
 
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everyone i've ever played was a total piece of ****. no joke. i'm not anti-epiphone or anything either. i like epiphone. but their hummingbirds are garbage.
 
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Like I said - I was running the ovation through some well-tuned electronic mojo. I'm not saying the Epi didn't have a DIFFERENT Sound. But for bar tune sound? Seriosly...no mic is gonna add tone that isn't there...
 
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If you are playing through a PA in bars, clubs, etc., an Ovation is probably just as good as anything else out there. By the time the signal get's processed and balanced into the mix, not many people will be able to stand 50 feet back from the speaker and hear a difference between the Ovation and a nice solid wood acoustic w/ a pickup.

For the record, I'm not a huge fan of Ovations, but that's more to do with the fact that I don't like how they feel when I play them, and that I would NEVER be able to bring one to a bluegrass picking circle. Some of those old time bluegrass guys get pissed off if you play a minor chord, never mind bringing a guitar with a plastic back, lol.
 
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I like the Ovation EXACTLY for how it feels! Being an electric guy and all....
 
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