Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

[Danglin' Fury]

Soooo... I have an Indonesian Schecter Damien Solo Elite in trans black. Blackout (b) EMG 85 . I recently received an offer to trade for a made in Japan, Jackson JRR-94 Concept Randy Rhoads V. Also a hardtail. I have been doing some research on said Jackson and really alot of people are saying yes, it is made in Japan, but cheaply. Cheap hardware blah blah blah. So, what do you guys think? Let me know.
Thanks.

 

[metalchurch79]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Yes, I would do it in a hearbeat!
Only because the Jackson is a more rare guitar, and it's made in Japan, so you know the quality is there in spades. a Pup upgrade should be the only thing on your list, unless you can work into the deal where you can keep your pups...

The only 'hardware' that would be considered cheap would be the bridge, which can easily be swapped out for a tone pro's bridge or something of equal value. The rest of that Jackson should be A-ok in my book. Heck, the original bridge is probably do-able for the time being as well.. Id def swap out those pups asap though.
Do you get a case with it?

 

[Danglin' Fury]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Yeah dude has a Jackson/Charvel hardcase with it. Man Im also picking up a Japanese Jackson Professional Dinky Reverse for $150. I have that dude in layaway right now. It has a Dimarzio Multibucker in the bridge. yellow/green quilt maple top. MMMMMM. YUMMY!! Yeah, I think what got dude all salivatin' was the actives in the thing.

 

[kramersteen]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

man those concept seriesj acksons are great, My mate has a jdr and its exceptional. i have always wanted one.

 

[DonP]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Japan > Indonesia

 

[Zerberus]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Indonesian Schecter for a Concept Rhoads?

No brainer, the Rhoads is the higher quality guitar any day of any week. They were Jackson`s low end back in the early 90s, precursor to the Performer series. But Jackson`s low end in teh early 90s is still better than a lot of maker`s High end today. The hardware is as good as any Epiphone, and in this case the only real "hardware" of any possible concern is the bridge.

Assuming of course there isn`t a massive discrepancy in condition, like the rhoads being beat to hell and back...

 

[metalchurch79]

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...But Jackson`s low end in teh early 90s is still better than a lot of maker`s High end today....

Very good point buddy!
Essentially most mid-level guitars of that entire era, whether it be Jackson, Charvel, Kramer , Ibanez, BC Rich, ESP, etc...will always stand their ground when compared to the vast majority of whats being offered today. These companies all have a guitar or four that are a real bang for the buck, so thats really why Ive been seeking these guitars out, as opposed to buying brand new ones. To each their own, thats just what drives my g.a.s.

There are some very nice guitars out today, there's no denying that. I guess Id rather have for example two $500 1987-93 RG550's as opposed to one $1000 something or other.
Not only do I get two guitars, but each of those guitars are just as good if not better than said new guitar.

This is a very loosely based comparison/scenerio and alot of things come into play, such as the good old waiting game that we're all accustomed to, when seeking out that one perfect guitar that you just have to have.

I just like old stuff in general, so Id rather have something that cannot be bought by someone out of a current catalog. The thrill of the chase is awesome too!

I think you'd love that Jackson, and if you have yet another pre-fmic Jackson lined up, then it sounds like you have your arsenal more or less spec'd out for now.
What color is the Rhoads?
I have several sets of EMGS that I could let go of for cheap if youre interested. They are the old style hardwired ones, and they're very worn and battle tested, so it may tie in to the rest of the guitar, if it turns out to be rough around the edges.. Thats cool that you get a case. Thats about $100 there, so that paid for the loss of your pups.

 

[Danglin' Fury]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Indonesian Schecter for a Concept Rhoads?

No brainer, the Rhoads is the higher quality guitar any day of any week. They were Jackson`s low end back in the early 90s, precursor to the Performer series. But Jackson`s low end in teh early 90s is still better than a lot of maker`s High end today. The hardware is as good as any Epiphone, and in this case the only real "hardware" of any possible concern is the bridge.

Assuming of course there isn`t a massive discrepancy in condition, like the rhoads being beat to hell and back...

Well, funny you say that. There is a bit of a discrepancy in the conditions of the guitars. Mine is dead mint, minus some very small pick swirls. The Rhoads is kind of beat up. Not too terribly but... I think I may pull the trigger on this. Dude lives like an hour and a half away from me though. So, if I go out there and it plays like a turd with a pickup on it, I'm screwed out of time and gas. I don't know. I've always wanted a Rhoads but I am 100% getting the Jackson Professional Dinky Reverse. That is also early-mid '90s. Do any of you fellers on here have any experience with a Dimarzio Multibucker? That's the bridge pup in the Dinky. Per Dimarzio's website they combined a Fast Track 1 and a Chopper into 1 Humbucher package. As I understand it, they don't sell those anymore. Just curious as to how it sounds.

 

[Rand-O-Monium]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Japan > Indonesia

"Generally" yup!

Got pics/link for teh RR?

 

[Adieu]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Soooo... I have an Indonesian Schecter Damien Solo Elite in trans black. Blackout (b) EMG 85 . I recently received an offer to trade for a made in Japan, Jackson JRR-94 Concept Randy Rhoads V. Also a hardtail. I have been doing some research on said Jackson and really alot of people are saying yes, it is made in Japan, but cheaply. Cheap hardware blah blah blah. So, what do you guys think? Let me know.
Thanks.

strangely - NO... and this coming from an MIJ fanboy

The JRR Concept things were *WEIRD*.... they weigh next to nothing and don't resonate, like, at all, at least the couple I've seen. and they look really cheaply made. very possibly the crappiest japanese guitar I've EVER seen. worth $149 used from GC, btw, so about the price of just the pickups in your schecter

 

[Adieu]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Well, funny you say that. There is a bit of a discrepancy in the conditions of the guitars. Mine is dead mint, minus some very small pick swirls. The Rhoads is kind of beat up. Not too terribly but... I think I may pull the trigger on this. Dude lives like an hour and a half away from me though. So, if I go out there and it plays like a turd with a pickup on it, I'm screwed out of time and gas. I don't know. I've always wanted a Rhoads but I am 100% getting the Jackson Professional Dinky Reverse. That is also early-mid '90s. Do any of you fellers on here have any experience with a Dimarzio Multibucker? That's the bridge pup in the Dinky. Per Dimarzio's website they combined a Fast Track 1 and a Chopper into 1 Humbucher package. As I understand it, they don't sell those anymore. Just curious as to how it sounds.

get an RR3, they're all japanese. much higher end builds than "Concept"/"Professional" series.

can be had plenty cheap due to people not knowing squat about guitars in general and pickups in particular. The MIJ label was on a sticker that always falls off, people look at the "Designed" on the pups and think "oh, a cheapie". Furthermore, most think the HB108's are copies of the Invader, so if they get around to upgrading, they tend to stick in pups that really don't match well at all (the designeds are actually Distortion copies).

RR3's ACTUALLY work well with: JB/59, EMG 81/whatever, Blackouts, Distortion sets

at street price for a used RR3 plus a new set of pickups (or a used set installed by someone else), you're looking at ~$400ish. bunches less with a good score and used pups installed by self, or with whatever pups it comes with.... occasionally <$200 even

 

[Danglin' Fury]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

get an RR3, they're all japanese. much higher end builds than "Concept"/"Professional" series.

can be had plenty cheap due to people not knowing squat about guitars in general and pickups in particular. The MIJ label was on a sticker that always falls off, people look at the "Designed" on the pups and think "oh, a cheapie". Furthermore, most think the HB108's are copies of the Invader, so if they get around to upgrading, they tend to stick in pups that really don't match well at all (the designeds are actually Distortion copies).

RR3's ACTUALLY work well with: JB/59, EMG 81/whatever, Blackouts, Distortion sets

at street price for a used RR3 plus a new set of pickups (or a used set installed by someone else), you're looking at ~$400ish. bunches less with a good score and used pups installed by self, or with whatever pups it comes with.... occasionally <$200 even

Yeah man, I hear ya. Thing is, this was just an opportunity that happened to fall in my lap. I'm a bit on the "cash strapped" side of life right now. Wife, 2 boys and NONE of them work. Lol!! The boys are 9 and 2 so I can't blame them. And the Dinky Reverse Jackson I'm getting for $150 total. After playing it, I would be a fool to pass up that deal. Neck is thin and Ibanez Wizard-like, but just a bit different. I love the Wizard necks, the Wizard 2 in particular, and this Japanese Dinky Rev. Has a similar feel. Not exact, but similar. Very fast and fluid. No cheese grater fret sides either.

 

[Danglin' Fury]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Oh and thanks for the input, Adieu. I was starting to think I was an a$$ hat for telling dude no on the trade. Seems like I made the right decision if they are cheap like you say. And Im fairly certain you know what you are talking about since you say you are a MIJ fanboy. I can not wait til I have the rest of the $$ to get my Dinky Rev. I wanna play it SOOOO bad! Also, again I ask: Does anybody have any experience, good or bad, with the Dimarzio Multibucker?

 

[Rand-O-Monium]

Re: Trade Schecter for Jackson. Should I?

Also, again I ask: Does anybody have any experience, good or bad, with the Dimarzio Multibucker?

Personally,no,but I'd try it in the nk pos..