Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
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Coma
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Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Did you give up on TB mod altogether or switch to Kinman?
I tried it through a few amp sims now and with high gain and compressed settings, I noticed very little if any tapering whatsoever. With more rock and crunch tones, its very clearly there and works great. Will have to wait for a few weeks to try it through my actual amp.
Did you give up on TB mod altogether or switch to Kinman?
I tried it through a few amp sims now and with high gain and compressed settings, I noticed very little if any tapering whatsoever. With more rock and crunch tones, its very clearly there and works great. Will have to wait for a few weeks to try it through my actual amp.
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Coma
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Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Oh wow, really? I bought components to try it with a 1200 pF cap and 130 k resistor. That's what I found as a recommendation when I googled around.
Oh wow, really? I bought components to try it with a 1200 pF cap and 130 k resistor. That's what I found as a recommendation when I googled around.
Coma
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Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Ok, so I just got done swapping the duncan mod for the Kinman, here are my stray observations so far (about three minutes of playing). Again, for future reference, here are the component values I used:
Duncan - 2.2 nF cap, 100k res
Kinman - 1.2 nF cap, 130k res
1: The issue with very little tapering taking place on with high gain tones remains, though it's less pronounced
2: There seems to be an overall brightness lingering in my tone, even when vol pot is fully open. Could possibly be because old and worn pot, though.
The idea to use the treble bleed to, as they say, "ride the volume pot" is probably not gonna happen. I wanted to try this because I have an OCD clone and heard it responds really well to adjusting the volume. Still gonna try it, ofc. That being said, I do like the mod despite what it does to my volume roll-off. IMO, the trade-off is worth it, esp considering how well it works one clean and crunchy tones.
Also, gotta pat myself on the back here - after first plugging the guitar back in, I noticed the bridge pup was kinda thin sounding and low in output. Correctly identified it as a cold solder joint and remedied it. Not bad for a soldering n00b, if I may say so myself
Ok, so I just got done swapping the duncan mod for the Kinman, here are my stray observations so far (about three minutes of playing). Again, for future reference, here are the component values I used:
Duncan - 2.2 nF cap, 100k res
Kinman - 1.2 nF cap, 130k res
1: The issue with very little tapering taking place on with high gain tones remains, though it's less pronounced
2: There seems to be an overall brightness lingering in my tone, even when vol pot is fully open. Could possibly be because old and worn pot, though.
The idea to use the treble bleed to, as they say, "ride the volume pot" is probably not gonna happen. I wanted to try this because I have an OCD clone and heard it responds really well to adjusting the volume. Still gonna try it, ofc. That being said, I do like the mod despite what it does to my volume roll-off. IMO, the trade-off is worth it, esp considering how well it works one clean and crunchy tones.
Also, gotta pat myself on the back here - after first plugging the guitar back in, I noticed the bridge pup was kinda thin sounding and low in output. Correctly identified it as a cold solder joint and remedied it. Not bad for a soldering n00b, if I may say so myself
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Clint 55
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Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Nice job, soldering is fun.
I've noticed that too that it seems big value treble bleeds can pump extra highs through even with the volume on 10.
Just use a cap alone. Not too bright, doesn't screw with your taper. Start with 200pf range and adjust up or down if you need to.
Nice job, soldering is fun.
I've noticed that too that it seems big value treble bleeds can pump extra highs through even with the volume on 10.
Just use a cap alone. Not too bright, doesn't screw with your taper. Start with 200pf range and adjust up or down if you need to.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
I have a different approach to baking off volume & adding treble: spin-a-split.
I have a different approach to baking off volume & adding treble: spin-a-split.
Coma
Well-known member
Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Yeah, I'm thinking next step is getting some gator clips and trying things out one at a time. Heck, there is ample space in that control cavity. I could even to something like connect two longer cables to the pot lugs with metal loops at the end so I don't have to keep removing the pots whenever I want to access them.
A somewhat more drastic surgery, though [emoji6]
Yeah, I'm thinking next step is getting some gator clips and trying things out one at a time. Heck, there is ample space in that control cavity. I could even to something like connect two longer cables to the pot lugs with metal loops at the end so I don't have to keep removing the pots whenever I want to access them.
A somewhat more drastic surgery, though [emoji6]
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Treble Bleed/Volume Pot Mod?
Not really. Just wire the existing tone control to be a 2nd volume pot for a HB, but just for one coil (the 'hot' wire would be the red & white wires on Duncans that are usually taped off together). Just a little basic soldering. I've done it to most of my neck HB's, so I can get a sharp high end, and a less fat tone. Sometimes neck HB's can sound pretty warm & thick.
Not really. Just wire the existing tone control to be a 2nd volume pot for a HB, but just for one coil (the 'hot' wire would be the red & white wires on Duncans that are usually taped off together). Just a little basic soldering. I've done it to most of my neck HB's, so I can get a sharp high end, and a less fat tone. Sometimes neck HB's can sound pretty warm & thick.