Triple Shot installation issue

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Golem

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Problem: It does not sound to me like I am accessing all the pickup options a triple shot should enable (i.e., each pickup by itself + series + parallel). The neck sounds like I am getting one pickup only and maybe parallel. The bridge pickup sounds like I am getting one pickup only and parallel.

I had called Seymour Duncan on Friday to find out how the Lace Dually's wire colors correspond to the Seymour Duncan color scheme. It took a few minutes but someone on their end looked it up and told me this:

Green wires are my ground

Orange Striped = Duncan Red

White Striped = Duncan Green

Orange (no stripe)= Seymour Duncan Black

White (no stripe) = White

So... I am hoping that by posting here someone can enlighten as to where I went wrong.
 
Re: Triple Shot installation issue

get a multimeter

set it to ohms

select pickup

turn volume all the way up

insert guitar cable into jack

read resistance between tip and sleeve (see image)

read the dc resistance of the pickups at each TS setting

full should be both coils together

each of the coil split positions should be one half of full

parallel should be one quarter of full

tip_sleeve2.jpg
 
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I have a multimeter but am rather inexperienced with them. Can you tell me what setting I should use.
 
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Sorry, I did actually remember that Ohms are resistance. I just don't know which setting in Ohms to use (I know they will gave the same number... but at different powers of ten).
 
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your pickups should be under 20k
so that would be the starting point
 
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7.8 Light Blue
12.7 Blue
19.9 Series
5 or so Parallel (the reading was not as steady as the others).

Maybe i wired it right. I saw some caps in there. Maybe there is a treble bleed or something else a newb modder like me didnt think about? 500k pots should be too bright for the lace sensors. Yet it isnt? I feel like such a tool.
 
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I'm confused by your initial post. You do understand that the TS only affect one pickup, not both at once, correct? It sound like you're expecting one TS ring to affect both, though it could just be how I'm reading it.

At any rate, you should be getting the following sounds:
Standard series (this is the default setup for the pickup when wired as intended by the manufacturer)
Parallel
Split to one coil
Split to the other coil

Not all pickups will have a prominent change in tone, and it is especially dependent on the amp as to how noticeable the change is. If you're using it for modern Metal, stop because it ain't gonna matter.

To test the splitting to either coil, rub a metal object on the polepieces and see if you get sound out of both coils.


And lastly, you should be aware that using the TripleShot on a stacked humbucking single-coil is really just asking for it.


Now, that's for Duncans and DiMzos and such. If Lace did something funny with the Dually like not linking them internally, then I'm not sure how/if the TS will function. Should be the same, I guess, but if the pickup is 2 singles sharing a baseplate and not internally connected, you might need to adjust the wiring at the TripleShot contact board, like swap 2 wires around.

Though which two is beyond me.
 
Re: Triple Shot installation issue

Golem said:
Problem: It does not sound to me like I am accessing all the pickup options a triple shot should enable (i.e., each pickup by itself + series + parallel). The neck sounds like I am getting one pickup only and maybe parallel. The bridge pickup sounds like I am getting one pickup only and parallel.

I had called Seymour Duncan on Friday to find out how the Lace Dually's wire colors correspond to the Seymour Duncan color scheme. It took a few minutes but someone on their end looked it up and told me this:

Green wires are my ground

Orange Striped = Duncan Red

White Striped = Duncan Green

Orange (no stripe)= Seymour Duncan Black

White (no stripe) = White

So... I am hoping that by posting here someone can enlighten as to where I went wrong.
Click to expand...

when i installed mine, i found that it was a very long, frustrating jouney trying to get the right color match for lace and SD. having to unsolder, solder, re-floyd my guitar, test, find out how wrong i was, un-floyd my guitar, repeat...
hopefully this'll shed some light and save you the trounble

SD = Lace
Black = Blk./Orange
White = Blk/white
Red = Orange
Green = White

what dually you get? i love my red-silver in the TS!
 
Re: Triple Shot installation issue

A Lace Dually is two different lace sensors put together into a humbucker. SO... it is actually more like two single coils than it is like a humbucker.

My wiring is a little different than the last person who posted but both work (if you did it his way it would be the switching is opposite of mine two get each sensor individually).

I am thinking I might just need to change the tone pot to 1 Meg to make it brighter. My issue is that it just sounds too warm... like a humbucker should be... but I was expecting the parallel and the light blue by itself to be brighter.

The wiring is different than a humbucker only in that it has two grounds to deal with. Fortunately they add stripes to the wires on each lace sensor so it is far more clear which pickup you are working with.
 
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hmmm
couldn't you simulate a 1 meg volume pot by
de-soldering the volume's grounded leg
and inserting a 500k resistor in-between the leg and the back of the pot?

assuming you have a 500k pot to begin with

may not turn all the way off
but who really does that anyways
 
Re: Triple Shot installation issue

ehdwuld said:
hmmm
couldn't you simulate a 1 meg volume pot by
de-soldering the volume's grounded leg
and inserting a 500k resistor in-between the leg and the back of the pot?

assuming you have a 500k pot to begin with

may not turn all the way off
but who really does that anyways
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This is an interesting thought. I don't actually know what a grounded leg on a potentiometer would be... but hey!.... I can try and figure it out.
 
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