Progbusters
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I got a TRS cable to hook up my amp to the studio monitor. It can also use the XLR cable, the kind that we use on mics. The XLR seems louder. why so?
TRS versus XLR
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Kamanda~SD
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Re: TRS versus XLR
What's the output on the amp? Models of amps and monitor?
Neither should be louder ASSUMING the amp has balanced 1/4" and both 1/4" and XLR outs are line level
What's the output on the amp? Models of amps and monitor?
Neither should be louder ASSUMING the amp has balanced 1/4" and both 1/4" and XLR outs are line level
beaubrummels
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Re: TRS versus XLR
Are the ohms rating of the TRS and XLR outs the same?
Are the ohms rating of the TRS and XLR outs the same?
devastone
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Re: TRS versus XLR
? No "ohms" rating on any of the cables we are talking about. I still don't think I've ever seen XLR or TRS cables used for power, their conductors are too small to run much power through.
And yeah, like Mincer I use powered monitors, but I'm using TRS because it was more convenient, but I've never noticed a difference between the 2, it's a Lo-Z, line level signal by that point (in guitar speak, it's well buffered), so there shouldn't be any loss.
? No "ohms" rating on any of the cables we are talking about. I still don't think I've ever seen XLR or TRS cables used for power, their conductors are too small to run much power through.
And yeah, like Mincer I use powered monitors, but I'm using TRS because it was more convenient, but I've never noticed a difference between the 2, it's a Lo-Z, line level signal by that point (in guitar speak, it's well buffered), so there shouldn't be any loss.
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Lazarus1140
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Re: TRS versus XLR
When you say "it" are you talking about the amp or monitor? Is it possible that one has XLR and TS connections w/o the 3rd connection of a TRS.? Could that even make a difference? I have no idea.
When you say "it" are you talking about the amp or monitor? Is it possible that one has XLR and TS connections w/o the 3rd connection of a TRS.? Could that even make a difference? I have no idea.
devastone
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Re: TRS versus XLR
I'm wondering if when he says "hook up my amp to the studio monitor", I'm wondering if he is talking about a cab sim out from his guitar amp to a powered studio monitor? That's the only thing that makes sense with a XLR or TRS cable, in which case, it still shouldn't make a difference in volume unless the 1/4" and XLR outputs on the amp are tapped from different places in the circuit.
Kinda need some clarification on what the OP is referring to.
I'm wondering if when he says "hook up my amp to the studio monitor", I'm wondering if he is talking about a cab sim out from his guitar amp to a powered studio monitor? That's the only thing that makes sense with a XLR or TRS cable, in which case, it still shouldn't make a difference in volume unless the 1/4" and XLR outputs on the amp are tapped from different places in the circuit.
Kinda need some clarification on what the OP is referring to.
TwilightOdyssey
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Re: TRS versus XLR
TRS and XLR are the same, electrically; they just have different connectors. Depending on the circuit, a balanced (TRS, XLR) input or output can yield a 6dB increase over unbalanced (RCA, TS).
TRS and XLR are the same, electrically; they just have different connectors. Depending on the circuit, a balanced (TRS, XLR) input or output can yield a 6dB increase over unbalanced (RCA, TS).
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beaubrummels
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Progbusters
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Re: TRS versus XLR
Its a Positive Grid head, solid state. I can either use a passive guitar cab, or the other two outs. In my example I am sending to a powered studio monitor.. I think the TRS cable is kinda cheap but I got it new at guitar center. thanks
Its a Positive Grid head, solid state. I can either use a passive guitar cab, or the other two outs. In my example I am sending to a powered studio monitor.. I think the TRS cable is kinda cheap but I got it new at guitar center. thanks
devastone
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Re: TRS versus XLR
I just went and looked it up, if the picture below is what you have, then the 1/4" outputs are unbalanced, so yes, they are different. And you only need to use TS cables with unbalanced outs, they only have 2 conductors, with a TRS one conductor is basically unused.
Some info on balanced vs unbalanced:
http://www.aviom.com/blog/balanced-vs-unbalanced/
http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/tech-tips/unbalanced-versus-balanced-i-o-and-how-to-work-with-them
I just went and looked it up, if the picture below is what you have, then the 1/4" outputs are unbalanced, so yes, they are different. And you only need to use TS cables with unbalanced outs, they only have 2 conductors, with a TRS one conductor is basically unused.
Some info on balanced vs unbalanced:
http://www.aviom.com/blog/balanced-vs-unbalanced/
http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/tech-tips/unbalanced-versus-balanced-i-o-and-how-to-work-with-them
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: TRS versus XLR
Sometimes we'll say that a certain cable has a "characteristic" impedance, which is the impedance of an infinitely long piece of that cable. A common example is cable TV coax wire, at 75 ohms.
Sometimes we'll say that a certain cable has a "characteristic" impedance, which is the impedance of an infinitely long piece of that cable. A common example is cable TV coax wire, at 75 ohms.
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Little Pigbacon
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Re: TRS versus XLR
Yep.
Yep.
