Tru oil on dyed wood

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Luca75

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Hi everyone,

I'd like to apply tru-oil to finish one of my projects but I've read that it could give some problems since I'd apply it on dyed wood.

I've used water based anyline colour to dye the wood (quilted maple veneer, dark purple) and I was wondering if someone has had some experience about applying tru-oil on a dyed piece of wood.

Any idea or suggestion will be so very much appreciated :friday:

Thanks guys

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

I applied tru-oil to a guitar I dyed a little while back. I didn't have any problems, and it was my first refinish! Still looks and feels great. The dye I used was water based.

Just make sure to let the dye dry thoroughly before you apply the tru-oil.
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

I use tru oil over alcohol based aniline dyes on my necks, and they come out great.

you do need to sand down to about 400 before you start though for best results
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

Razix said:
I applied tru-oil to a guitar I dyed a little while back. I didn't have any problems, and it was my first refinish! Still looks and feels great. The dye I used was water based.


Just make sure to let the dye dry thoroughly before you apply the tru-oil.
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That's a great news!!! You know since tru oil is yellowish some suggested that it could be slightly change the colour of the dye once it is wiped on the coloured wood!

How long did you wait before applying tru-oil? I know the wood will have to be prepared a bit in order for tru-oil to work properly.

Have you had loadsa sanding to do before wiping it on?


Thanks a lot :friday:

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

Curly said:
I use tru oil over alcohol based aniline dyes on my necks, and they come out great.

you do need to sand down to about 400 before you start though for best results
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Thank you for answering :1:

Have you used the procedure of applying tru-oil on a small surface and then wiping it off immediately after (and repeat it all over the neck for several coats) or just applied it coat by coat?

I'm interested in the former technique since I'll be applying it on a quilted maple piece of veneer :naughty:

Cheers,

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

Luca75 said:
Have you used the procedure of applying tru-oil on a small surface and then wiping it off immediately after (and repeat it all over the neck for several coats) or just applied it coat by coat?
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on necks, I apply it one coat at a time, and wipe off any excess after about 5 minutes or so ...

I also finished a mahogany thinline T with tru oil:

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I'll be starting a strat body any day that will be tru oil over a dye.

some things get better with practice, but it's important not to apply too much at once, as with any finish, then sand lightly between coats --- I wait a day between coats, and at least a week after the last coat

I also prefer not to use steel wool, since I don't like the stuff, it's messy, and I think it stains a little ... so I just use sand paper and scotch pads
 
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^ Yeah, nice looking Tele.

I've used Tru-Oil for bodies and necks. The body I Tru-Oiled was dyed first with a water based dye, there were no problems with that. The color will change slightly though, as you mentioned. Any natural oil finish will give the wood a slightly golden color. I think it looks nice, it adds warmth.

The way I did it was to apply it by hand to each surface individually. Like, do the front, let dry, do the back, let dry, do the sides, let dry. Scuff it down lightly with steel wool between coats. The last couple coats were sprayed on with Tru-Oil aerosol. Just be aware that if you do this step it starts to look more like lacquer and less like an oil finish.
 
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Eblis said:
Curly, that is one of the coolest Teles ever. :)
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hey thanks ... I am still working out the balance between the two pickups, but other than that, yeah, I'm happy with the way it turned out.

the top was a great piece, so with a little amber dye, the came out looking a lot like koa
 
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Thanks for all your input guys ;-) I've wiped on the second coat of tru-oil and it seems ok well to be honest I've no idea about what it should be looking like ahah

I'm applying some tru-oil on a small area and then wiping the excess immediately off...the only problem is I don't know how much oil is too much. personally as soon as I apply it the area is very shiny then when I wipe it off it's no longer shiny....

During the 1st coat I've almost removed all the tru-oil I'd applied but I don't think that was well done ...

Now it seems kinda better, any other useful tip? I'm following these guidelines

http://www.lmii.com/CartTwo/TruOil.htm

But even there there's no indication about how much oil is consedered "excess"

Thanks again ;-)

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

Hey Luca75, if you get a chance post some pics of the work in progress. It's always cool looking at projects in the works.
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

Eblis said:
Hey Luca75, if you get a chance post some pics of the work in progress. It's always cool looking at projects in the works.
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I'm not sure about how to put a pic in here...I've tried but I'm asked to put a link...the good old copy and paste doesnt work :banghead:

I'm liking it but only because I've been spending so much time on it ahah there are loadsa imperfections on the wood that I didn't bother fixing (I dont have the skills to do so) and some I actually did myself :scratchch

I will put some pictures, somehow someway, soon specially when I mount the deadly couple Parallel Axis Distortion and Parallel Axis PA-STK1N :naughty:

I'll wipe the 2nd real coat later and from tomorrow I'm adding 2 coats a day until is nice and gloss :14:


Cheers,

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

I just kept wiping oil off until it looked wet, but not shiny. Hopefully that helps you determine how much oil to leave on.

It did take me quite a few coats to build up a nice finish.
 
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Razix said:
I just kept wiping oil off until it looked wet, but not shiny. Hopefully that helps you determine how much oil to leave on.

It did take me quite a few coats to build up a nice finish.
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That's helpful :naughty:

Thanks a lot :friday:

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

These are 2 picts taken 5 min after wiping on the 4th coat. I've noticed that after the 1st, 2nd and 3rd coat the body looked so very shiny during the application but it didn't happen during this 4th coat.

Is it normal to happen or I'm missing something?

Cheers,

Luca
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood

you need to buff it to bring out the lustre.

looks very nice btw.
 
Re: Tru oil on dyed wood - Nearly finished adding coats

Re: Tru oil on dyed wood - Nearly finished adding coats

Hi guys,

These pics were taken 15h after I wiped the 10th coat of tru-oil.

It looks pretty gloss and shiny now.

I'm planning to add 2 more coats (today and tomorrow) and then let it cured completely for 1-2 weeks.

I will then buff it with Maguiars Swirl X Remover, which seems to be a very good product (never tried before though...).

I will then mount a Parallel Axis Distortion (Bridge) and a Parallel Axis STK1 (Neck) both of them will have the option Series/Parallel thanks to 2 Push/Pull pots.

What do you think about it?

Btw the original instrument was a Robin Medley Standard IV which I bought on ebay in terrible conditions...half sanded and half sprayed with a can (black), no pups and hardware. The only good thing was the original bridge Kahler :naughty:

Thanks for all your help :friday:

Luca
 
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