truss rod nut
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theodie
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Re: truss rod nut
In this situation, it might be a few other factors. I can speculate but, I couldnt give you good advice without having it on my bench to say for sure. See, these things can be sensative and it can be easy to break a truss rod. Take it to someone with expereince if in doubt.
In this situation, it might be a few other factors. I can speculate but, I couldnt give you good advice without having it on my bench to say for sure. See, these things can be sensative and it can be easy to break a truss rod. Take it to someone with expereince if in doubt.
frankfalbo
In Fluence Y'all
Re: truss rod nut
Did you glue the nut on? Do you know what kind of glue it is? You can put a little superglue remover on it and see if that helps. It'll soften the glue. Still, truss rods are usually a little oily when installed. Most of the time glue will just crack off. So if it's completely frozen, then as theodie said it could be other things. It could be rusted on, etc. In any event, as your working it out, only go counter-clockwise. It could also be tight because it's bottomed out, either on the threads, or the actual adjustment.
Did you glue the nut on? Do you know what kind of glue it is? You can put a little superglue remover on it and see if that helps. It'll soften the glue. Still, truss rods are usually a little oily when installed. Most of the time glue will just crack off. So if it's completely frozen, then as theodie said it could be other things. It could be rusted on, etc. In any event, as your working it out, only go counter-clockwise. It could also be tight because it's bottomed out, either on the threads, or the actual adjustment.
Re: truss rod nut
i'm no expert... that's for sure.... but the hack in me says put some light drops of 3-in-1 oil on the nut and thread.... leave it for a few days... maybe apply a very small amount on day 2.... might soak in and help free it up... but hey i'm no expert and like the guys above said you could break the rod/nut if not careful....
i'm no expert... that's for sure.... but the hack in me says put some light drops of 3-in-1 oil on the nut and thread.... leave it for a few days... maybe apply a very small amount on day 2.... might soak in and help free it up... but hey i'm no expert and like the guys above said you could break the rod/nut if not careful....
casblah
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Re: truss rod nut
Try to dig some/all of it out with an x-acto knife. Even if you only get some of it off, it will help immensely. Also try a hobby-sized wire brush...it may assist in some removal, after the knife treatment. Lastly, you may be able to chip some of it off, with a small hammer, and a screwdriver/driftpunch, etc. There is more strength in the threads of the T-rod, than there is, in the "holding power" of the glue. Theoretically, you should be able to move the nut, after some of the aforementioned persuasion. Good Luck!
Try to dig some/all of it out with an x-acto knife. Even if you only get some of it off, it will help immensely. Also try a hobby-sized wire brush...it may assist in some removal, after the knife treatment. Lastly, you may be able to chip some of it off, with a small hammer, and a screwdriver/driftpunch, etc. There is more strength in the threads of the T-rod, than there is, in the "holding power" of the glue. Theoretically, you should be able to move the nut, after some of the aforementioned persuasion. Good Luck!
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I've worked on so many...I'd just turn that bitch till something happened...but, that's just me. Also, as reckless as that may sound, you'll notice alot of top-shelf luthiers and guitar techs would do the same. Besides, all you're doing is loosening it. The only thing I'd worry about is breaking something...
I've worked on so many...I'd just turn that bitch till something happened...but, that's just me. Also, as reckless as that may sound, you'll notice alot of top-shelf luthiers and guitar techs would do the same. Besides, all you're doing is loosening it. The only thing I'd worry about is breaking something...
kmcguitars
GuitarArtologist
Re: truss rod nut
I agree with Odie. If the rod has glue on it? Good chance the rod will break. Odie happens to be the lucky recipient of a bass neck that I broke the rod on.:yell: (There was a glob of glue in the channel at the 3rd fret) The rod wouldn't budge either way. When I put my shoulder into it...SNAP!:fingersx:
I agree with Odie. If the rod has glue on it? Good chance the rod will break. Odie happens to be the lucky recipient of a bass neck that I broke the rod on.:yell: (There was a glob of glue in the channel at the 3rd fret) The rod wouldn't budge either way. When I put my shoulder into it...SNAP!:fingersx:
Re: truss rod nut
Thanks guys! I'm gonna dig out as much as I can, then run a little bit of nail polish remover on the sides of the nut and let it sit for a day or two. Come back at it and see what happens.
If that don't work I'll remove the nut to give me more room to work and try again. If that don't work, I guess its time for the blowtorch and wrench!
Thanks again.
Thanks guys! I'm gonna dig out as much as I can, then run a little bit of nail polish remover on the sides of the nut and let it sit for a day or two. Come back at it and see what happens.
If that don't work I'll remove the nut to give me more room to work and try again. If that don't work, I guess its time for the blowtorch and wrench!
Thanks again.
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theodie
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Re: truss rod nut
Sometimes with a stubborn truss rod you have to create a bow in it the right way to allow the rod to do what it needs to do (using clamps, blocks, and know what the hell to do with them). Cranking the crap out of it without using finesse like this kind of method will certainly break it in alot of cases.
IMO, if they are trully top shelf techs and luthiers, they would use a method I like I spoke of or other methods!
Sometimes with a stubborn truss rod you have to create a bow in it the right way to allow the rod to do what it needs to do (using clamps, blocks, and know what the hell to do with them). Cranking the crap out of it without using finesse like this kind of method will certainly break it in alot of cases.
IMO, if they are trully top shelf techs and luthiers, they would use a method I like I spoke of or other methods!
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at a good well known repair shop in toronto i saw the tech set up my cheap 94 MIM Squier... Before he turned the truss rod he grabbed the neck and gave the center of the neck a good push down on his bench like he was giving someone CPR... I was a little freaked out as it was a brand new guitar at the time.... but he said it was just a way to free up the rod....
at a good well known repair shop in toronto i saw the tech set up my cheap 94 MIM Squier... Before he turned the truss rod he grabbed the neck and gave the center of the neck a good push down on his bench like he was giving someone CPR... I was a little freaked out as it was a brand new guitar at the time.... but he said it was just a way to free up the rod....
kmcguitars
GuitarArtologist
Re: truss rod nut
Avoid the BSI method.:eek13:
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Avoid the BSI method.:eek13:
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theodie
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Re: truss rod nut
Yes, I often do this when tweaking the rod! It takes alot of the stress off of the rod so, there is alot less chance of breakage. You still have to know what you are doing and how much you can get away with.
Yes, I often do this when tweaking the rod! It takes alot of the stress off of the rod so, there is alot less chance of breakage. You still have to know what you are doing and how much you can get away with.
Sprinter
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Re: truss rod nut
Are you sure it's glue? Some manufactures put the truss rod in with wax around it. The wax seals the truss rod cavity, so that moisture / humidity doesn't get inside. What you're seeing may be wax, and the truss rod is just stuck. The wax won't stick the truss rod.
Sprinter
Are you sure it's glue? Some manufactures put the truss rod in with wax around it. The wax seals the truss rod cavity, so that moisture / humidity doesn't get inside. What you're seeing may be wax, and the truss rod is just stuck. The wax won't stick the truss rod.
Sprinter
Re: truss rod nut
Yup. The string nut was really overglued and it dripped down onto the truss rod nut.
Yup. The string nut was really overglued and it dripped down onto the truss rod nut.