Trying a trem stopper for the first time

[T-Bone-BBQ]

I got a trem stopper to try on one of my guitars with the Floyd Rose type tremolos, so I put it on my red ESP LTD M-100FM. Now the trem can still be used, but will only go down and should stay in tune better. I tightened the claw for the springs so it will pull the trem back against the stopper every time. We'll see how I like it in this guitar. If it works good I may put it on a couple more. So far it's stayed in tune great and hasn't affected how I play because I never really pulled back on the trem.

 

[Diego]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

Used to have one in a RG. They should come stock on every Floyd Rose guitar out there. An extremely useful tool.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I had a thing like that on a finicky Kramer. Loved it.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I've read they give better mechanical coupling between body and trem block, so sometimes they can improve tone & sustain.
Anyone noticed this?
I've thought about trying one on a PRS SE that's noticeably less lively than my core models.

 

[Gtrjunior]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

You shouldn’t have had to adjust the claw...you make contact by adjusting the black center screw on the stopper.

 

[T-Bone-BBQ]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

You shouldn’t have had to adjust the claw...you make contact by adjusting the black center screw on the stopper.

True, but once you have the set screw in place you adjust the claw to add more tension to the springs making come back to the stopper each time. That way it won't end up slightly flat from not going back to pitch. The extra spring pull forces it back.

 

[stratguy23]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I've read they give better mechanical coupling between body and trem block, so sometimes they can improve tone & sustain.
Anyone noticed this?

I haven't done direct A/B tests, but I've had the Tremol-No (basically a more adjustable trem stopper) in a few guitars, and none of them sounded bad or had that plinky feeling that vibrato bridges can have.

 

[Gtrjunior]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I haven't done direct A/B tests, but I've had the Tremol-No (basically a more adjustable trem stopper) in a few guitars, and none of them sounded bad or had that plinky feeling that vibrato bridges can have.

I’ve got a Tremol-no in my Ibanez Iron Label 7 String. I have no complaints tone wise. I DO want to swap out the bridge pickup but that has nothing to do with the Tremol-no.
If I didn’t tell you, you probably wouldn’t know it was there.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

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Fancy. In my worn-out Floyd copy days, I had to stack up some pennies, roll tape around them, and wedge it in place to achieve that. On the upside, it cost less than 20 cents total.

 

[T-Bone-BBQ]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I've read they give better mechanical coupling between body and trem block, so sometimes they can improve tone & sustain.
Anyone noticed this?

I can't really say that there appears to be a huge difference in sustain and tone. It's stopped against a small contact point, so I don't know that there's enough surface area to really increase sustain via coupling to the body. It's possible, but I don't think it would be a big difference. I don't feel the body vibrate/resonate any more than it did before putting the stopper on. As far as tone goes...the Custom Custom/59 pickup combo I put in this guitar had great tone before, so I had no complaints on the tone, just wanted better tuning stability for this guitar. I don't really notice any difference in tone so far. The biggest difference I notice is in tuning. No more having the tuning go slightly flat after good trem use like before. I can't pull up on the bar now, but I never really did that before.

 

[devastone]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I use these - http://www.fu-tone.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=222

Makes tuning a lot more stable and I can still pull up.

 

[Gtrjunior]

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I like that.
I have a Trem-Setter in one of my guitars. This looks like a little different design but I’m guessing they function pretty much the same?
They basically set a zero point for the trem to return to.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

I can't really say that there appears to be a huge difference in sustain and tone. It's stopped against a small contact point, so I don't know that there's enough surface area to really increase sustain via coupling to the body. It's possible, but I don't think it would be a big difference. I don't feel the body vibrate/resonate any more than it did before putting the stopper on. As far as tone goes...the Custom Custom/59 pickup combo I put in this guitar had great tone before, so I had no complaints on the tone, just wanted better tuning stability for this guitar. I don't really notice any difference in tone so far. The biggest difference I notice is in tuning. No more having the tuning go slightly flat after good trem use like before. I can't pull up on the bar now, but I never really did that before.

Thanks. That makes sense about the small point of contact.

 

[T-Bone-BBQ]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

Thanks. That makes sense about the small point of contact.

All I know is it stays in tune like a champ now.

 

[T-Bone-BBQ]

Re: Trying a trem stopper for the first time

After using the guitar at home for a while with the trem-stopper I can say I'm very pleased with it. The guitar has stayed in tune wonderfully. I won't put this on all my guitars with Floyd type bridges, but a couple with older bridges will get them.