the guy who invented fire
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Two rock amps...
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That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
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I remember playing a Custom Reverb that I loved. Too bad the store wanted $3500 for it :saeek:
They really are one of the "end of the line" amps. My heart is set on a CAA OD-100, but that won't be for a while
I remember playing a Custom Reverb that I loved. Too bad the store wanted $3500 for it :saeek:
They really are one of the "end of the line" amps. My heart is set on a CAA OD-100, but that won't be for a while
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Two rock amps...
what are they voiced like?
what are they voiced like?
Jeff_H
Dean Hardtail Fanologist
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They have amazing clean channels and a suprisingly Marshall like drive channel, despite the fact that they are 6L6 based. They also have a couple of toggle switches, bright and normal, some type of mid switch and I think a modern/vintage switch, although I can't remember for sure.
What I do remember is that the OD was lush, tight, compressed and sustaining...without being harsh, and it was articulate as hell. I thought it was going to remind me of a Mesa amp, but it certainly did not. The only downside IMO is they are rather plain looking.
The Emerald Pro is the one I played.
They have amazing clean channels and a suprisingly Marshall like drive channel, despite the fact that they are 6L6 based. They also have a couple of toggle switches, bright and normal, some type of mid switch and I think a modern/vintage switch, although I can't remember for sure.
What I do remember is that the OD was lush, tight, compressed and sustaining...without being harsh, and it was articulate as hell. I thought it was going to remind me of a Mesa amp, but it certainly did not. The only downside IMO is they are rather plain looking.
The Emerald Pro is the one I played.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
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Thats what I thought too...is that right???
FretFire said:
Thats what I thought too...is that right???
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
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The Custom Reverb is very Dumble-ish to my ears. Pretty much a smoother, tighter, Marshall with more sustain.
The Custom Reverb is very Dumble-ish to my ears. Pretty much a smoother, tighter, Marshall with more sustain.
twoheadedboy
New member
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I was reading an interview where John Mayer talked about Two Rock. He compares them to a Dumble. I think I read the article on www.tonequest.com
I was reading an interview where John Mayer talked about Two Rock. He compares them to a Dumble. I think I read the article on www.tonequest.com
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
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I haven't played one, but I would imagine the Fuchs would be similar (I've only heard clips)?
FretFire said:
I haven't played one, but I would imagine the Fuchs would be similar (I've only heard clips)?
JumpMarine
18 watts of Mayhemologist
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If you get the chance listen to John Mayer play on the Crossroads Festival DVD he's playing through a Two Rock. One of the best strat tones I've ever heard, very SRV/Dumble sound.the guy who invented fire said:
aleclee
Major General GAS
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What does a Two Rock sound like? It depends on the model.
Fuchs amps are Dumble-inspired as well and are probably most comparable to the Custom.
I've played an Opal and Emerald 50. I didn't "get" the Opal. It was a nice enough amp but didn't do much for me. OTOH, I did "get" the Emerald, figuratively and literally.
It has one of the best clean sounds I've every played (a Fuchs I tried was slightly better) but the lead channel is what really makes that amp special to me. Backing off on pick dynamics makes for a good (not great) clean sound while digging in with the pick gets a wonderfully harmonic timbre. It's amazingly expressive and at band volumes it lets you grab a note and just hold on to it. All the while, it doesn't sound super compressed or buzzy. It just breathes.
If you're into crunch or sizzle, or if "brutal" is a complimentary adjective when describing tone, a Two Rock might not be for you (though the Jade might work in such applications). OTOH, if you're looking for an amp that'll help you achieve and extend some classic tones, you might want to check one out.
Oh, and if you plug in a Strat, dial in the clean channel for some light grind, and flip on the neck pickup, it's instant SRV.
What does a Two Rock sound like? It depends on the model.
- The Emerald was supposedly designed to get Robben Ford's Dumble tone.
- The Custom was inspired by Steve Kimrock's Dumble tone.
- The Ruby was intended to be cop the Trainwreck vibe.
- The Jade is supposed to have more gain than any other model.
Fuchs amps are Dumble-inspired as well and are probably most comparable to the Custom.
I've played an Opal and Emerald 50. I didn't "get" the Opal. It was a nice enough amp but didn't do much for me. OTOH, I did "get" the Emerald, figuratively and literally.
If you're into crunch or sizzle, or if "brutal" is a complimentary adjective when describing tone, a Two Rock might not be for you (though the Jade might work in such applications). OTOH, if you're looking for an amp that'll help you achieve and extend some classic tones, you might want to check one out.
Oh, and if you plug in a Strat, dial in the clean channel for some light grind, and flip on the neck pickup, it's instant SRV.
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Jeff, I think that santa barbara amp at Jensen's was an Emerald 50, not the Pro.
I have a Custom Reverb and I agree with Chris about it being "an end of the road amp."
I just wish I'd discovered it a long time ago and I'd not have had to buy and sell so many amps to get to this point.
I thought that Emerald 50 the other day was more of a rock amp (some of that Marshall terrtory maybe?). My Custom Reverb is a do it all amp for me. I can dial in country, rock, blues, you name it. The matching 2x12 is killer as well. I like their eminece-made speakers.
I'm very much addicted to this amp. Like no other, ever.
After I got the TR, I started selling off other amps. I still have several amps sitting around, but they don't get played much. The TR could very well be my last amp purchase. They are that good to my ears.
Jeff, I think that santa barbara amp at Jensen's was an Emerald 50, not the Pro.
I have a Custom Reverb and I agree with Chris about it being "an end of the road amp."
I just wish I'd discovered it a long time ago and I'd not have had to buy and sell so many amps to get to this point.
I thought that Emerald 50 the other day was more of a rock amp (some of that Marshall terrtory maybe?). My Custom Reverb is a do it all amp for me. I can dial in country, rock, blues, you name it. The matching 2x12 is killer as well. I like their eminece-made speakers.
I'm very much addicted to this amp. Like no other, ever.
After I got the TR, I started selling off other amps. I still have several amps sitting around, but they don't get played much. The TR could very well be my last amp purchase. They are that good to my ears.
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The other key for my amp was when I took out the JJ 6L6's and put in the TAD 6L6WGB's.
The reason is that Two Rock is selling their amps in a new even-higher priced versions, called the Signature Custom Reverb or the Signature Opal, etc.,. In the Signature amps, they put NOS 6L6WGB's in there. So, I figured that must be an important factor. It was in fact. The amp got even better when I put in the new tubes.
The entire Signature series thing leaves me a bit cold, but if they have found a market and they're making money, God bless them. It just seems to me that if you take a great amp that costs a lot already, the entire bluepriting thing just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Now they are discontinuing the Custom Reverb completely. Joe and Bill have a new versoin of the CR, called the Artist. It's not quite as good as their Signature CR, but it's supposed to be closer than the old Custom Reverb.
They do have a positive track record of improving their model lines. I can't imagine it getting any better than my CR, but I hold out the possibility that they can make it better. The day I visited them in Northern Cal, I turned down the chance to plug into the Signature. Just didn't want to know. Why? Well, I wasn't ready to pony up another 1500-2000 over the 3 G I was about to spend on the CR! I'm not overly cheap, but 3 G was my limit.
The other key for my amp was when I took out the JJ 6L6's and put in the TAD 6L6WGB's.
The reason is that Two Rock is selling their amps in a new even-higher priced versions, called the Signature Custom Reverb or the Signature Opal, etc.,. In the Signature amps, they put NOS 6L6WGB's in there. So, I figured that must be an important factor. It was in fact. The amp got even better when I put in the new tubes.
The entire Signature series thing leaves me a bit cold, but if they have found a market and they're making money, God bless them. It just seems to me that if you take a great amp that costs a lot already, the entire bluepriting thing just doesn't seem worth it to me.
Now they are discontinuing the Custom Reverb completely. Joe and Bill have a new versoin of the CR, called the Artist. It's not quite as good as their Signature CR, but it's supposed to be closer than the old Custom Reverb.
They do have a positive track record of improving their model lines. I can't imagine it getting any better than my CR, but I hold out the possibility that they can make it better. The day I visited them in Northern Cal, I turned down the chance to plug into the Signature. Just didn't want to know. Why? Well, I wasn't ready to pony up another 1500-2000 over the 3 G I was about to spend on the CR! I'm not overly cheap, but 3 G was my limit.
