Upper Fret Access

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I see both sides of this one; I really do. I have both kinds of guitars, I enjoy both kinds of playing, and I love them all. I don't reject a Les Paul for not having twenty-four frets and comfortable access, and I don't reject a Jackson Soloist for not having that magical neck pickup tone. I need both for what I do.
 
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Goanna mince hash browns?

Fret access: if the frets are there, one should be able to access them easily. I'm not fan of LPs because the combination of the bulky heel and 24 3/4" scale makes it feel very cramped to me. Ok with Strat style square heel + 22 fret.

Maybe the guitars with the nicest (non neck-through) fret access I've played are Pete C's.
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It absolutely does matter to me and I've sold a guitar because of it. All the old timers here can talk all they want about who made what music on that 14th fret acoustic with mile high action, it doesn't help in a cover band, which is more-or-less what I've always played in. The harmony part of Priest's "The Hellion" gets up to the 22nd fret and bends up to the 24th and there's no way around it. Even a LP, I can do it on, albeit with my fret hand thumb in the cutaway a'la Nuge, but when you're talking about 22 frets on a guitar when the cutaway only goes to the 18th or 19th fret, the rest might as well just be decoration.

SGs, Vs, Explorers, MLs, 335s, LPs, I can handle.
 
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I'm planning on removing some of the wood on my jaguar so I can reach the last four frets comfortably. that is to say... play in the 19th position comfortably. play so that my index finger can comfortably fret the 19th fret on the low e string without having the side of my hand mashed against the body.
 
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It definitely matters to me BUT I'll still play exactly the same if there's a cutaway of any kind.

I'll make that guitar work for ME.
 
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Upper fret access never bothered me with my LP's......I never play up super high on the neck anyways. The highest I usually will go is maybe 15-17 for solos. I like the stay in the middle though
 
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What I really like about 24 fretters is the 22nd fret access.

Either the body is cut in such a manner as to allow better access to the 22nd fret (like on some SGs where the 22 is right there at the end of the body, not in the body like a LP), or they reposition the neck tenon/center/bridge-to-nut placement so that the 22nd fret is at the end of the body.


And I don't care if your hero wrote all his stuff on a 9 fret acoustic in 1908. I am not going to dumb down my material to suit such a limited range. To even suggest the possibility is...is.....I won't say retarded, because even retarded people wouldn't suggest such a thing.
 
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Most of the legendary classic guitar music was made on traditional instruments without the players whining about 'upper fret access'. Most of what lays in those difficult-to-reach areas is simply annoying. There is a whole universe of music to be found below in the easily-accessed areas. I am always wary whenever I see a Youtube clip that begins with the 'player' having his fretting hand way up in the cutaway. Sure 'nuff, inevitably the screeching masturbation starts and i switch off.

I suppose modern players consider themselves to have advanced the cause in some way, but in reality, they are self-absorbed wankers ... the experience might be fun for them, but it is not for a listener.

Besides, why not simply tune the high strings higher if you really must irritate the crap out of the poor listener, or play a bloody mandolin. Do you want to hear a violinst dweedling away up at the highest end of the fingerboard for very long ?

There should be some kind of testing applied to players before they're allowed past the 12th fret ... to confirm that they have taste, and regard for the listener. The electric guitar can be irritating enough as it is, without adding another octave of pain.

The '80s thing of 'three notes per string' didn't help, forcing every run to ascend quickly up the board ... another classic example of 'technique' becoming a musical 'style' ... runs that start low and zoom up to the shrieking area. So boring, so tedious, so painful. But hey, why wank a little on the guitar when you can be a complete and utter wanker i guess. Don't worry about the listener, people ... if it hurts their ears, i guess they just don't understand your artistic brilliance.

wankers.

Thank you for your open-minded and completely objective opinion. No trace of personal preferences found in here at all.
 
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For the times that I want to play high on the neck, I switch to an SG for those songs. If you're at a gig, you should have 2 guitars anyways. If one of those has high neck access, you're all set. How many guys have to hit the top frets on every song?
 
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Thank you for your open-minded and completely objective opinion. No trace of personal preferences found in here at all.

You're welcome. It's a lot more than you've offered this thread. If you could read, you'd notice the opening post asked for personal opinions. I presented mine. You seem to have simply entered the thread to attempt to put down my opinion rather than presenting your own.

Anyway, I hope my opinion got up your nose.

You're welcome.
 
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Fret access is overrated IMO. That might be because I feel the same way about playing much above the 17th fret. I used to live in the 12th & 17th positions but nowadays I prefer to say lower on the neck. As infrequently as I get up into the dog whistle zone, it doen't matter so much anymore.
 
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