Urgent: Custom Wiring Diagram Assistance Needed!! Please Help!!!

Corwin

Corwin

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Hey there folks! Alright, I’m in the middle of my first guitar wiring job and I’ve run into an issue with my wiring diagram! I’m installing some P-Rails (Hot) into the bridge & a little ’59 in the neck (I’m leaving the middle pup out). A couple months ago I was in steady communication with a fellow SD Forum Member who goes by Parameterman, who was a HUGE Help!!! He created this awesome wiring diagram for me to get these combinations:

1) Neck with series/split/parallel selector
2) positions 1 + 4 combined in series
3) positions 1 + 4 combined
4) Bridge, parallel with P-90/both/rail selector
5) Bridge, series

The problem is with a one of the wires in the diagram!
Look at the on/on/on switch in the bottom left hand corner labelled: “P-90 Both Rail”. Then look at the wire coming out of the Top Left Lug- if you follow it, it seems to intersect with the black wire coming out of the P-Rails and then make it’s way to the Top Right Common Lug of the Superswitch? This can’t be right can it? Are both the black wire from the P-Rails and the Top-Left Lug on the On/On/On switch supposed to be soldered to the Top-Left Lug of the Superswitch!?

I've attatched the diagram designed by Parameterman, so hopefully you're able to view it!

Man oh man, this is going to make or break my project and my guitar. So PLEASE Help if you can!!!  Thanks!!!
 
Re: Urgent: Custom Wiring Diagram Assistance Needed!! Please Help!!!

The problem isn't the switch. An on-on-on switch can be wired as an on-off-on switch by doing it as parameterman has shown. (Economically, it doesn't make sense since an on-on-on tends to cost more.)

An on-on-on switch works like this:

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Edit: Gimme a sec. This is the third time I've edited this. There is something wrong with that switch wiring.

Edit 2: Ok . . . there's no purpose in separating the red and white wires of the P-Rails. In fact, it causes a potential problem, that being, with the switch set to whatever mode that the R/G wires represent, the "other" coil is left hanging out on the "hot" side of the circuit acting as a noise antenna.

Just do it like this:
 
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Re: Urgent: Custom Wiring Diagram Assistance Needed!! Please Help!!!

THanks for steppin' in and takin' an interest FunkFingers & ArtieToo!!! I appreciate the advice!

ArtieToo, this alternate Switch Wiring you've laid out, will this still allow for all of the Combinations Parameterman worked out me? I've actually already Soldered that particular switch based on then original diagram. Would you say it'd be worth de-soldering? The way it is now, will that cause noise with one particular setting/combination or with the pickup as a whole?

Thanks for taking the time out to adjust the diagram for me!
 
Re: Urgent: Custom Wiring Diagram Assistance Needed!! Please Help!!!

Sorry to stick my nose in, surely position 1 is redundant as you can get the P-Rails in series using the on-on-on switch? I get the feeling that's why the original guy split the red and white wires, surely the "both" position is supposed to be parallel? ArtieToo, I agree that the original diagram was flawed just as you said. Seems to me what should be done is on the original diagram, the top two lugs should be soldered together and the bottom two lugs should be soldered together on the mode switch. Assuming ArtieToo's switch diagram is correct (I've never used an on-on-on so I wouldn't know) this would give you: Position 1 - red and white cables connected to black (P90), Position 2 - red connected to black, white connected to ground (rail and P90 in parallel) Position 3 - red and white connected to ground (rail)...

I think.

Apologies for butting in, but I've been looking at these diagrams for about 45 minutes trying to work out what's going on. Hearty congratulations to Corwin for choosing the most awkward pickup switching system I've ever seen! :D
 
Re: Urgent: Custom Wiring Diagram Assistance Needed!! Please Help!!!

I have to point out as respectfully as possible that Funk and Artie are both wrong. The on/on/on does indeed have a point, and that is parallel operation for the P-rails in position four, as referenced in Corwin's post.

As a side note, I drew this up before I was informed(by Artie, I believe) that most on/on/on switches function as per his little diagram - the switches I've dealt with have been mirrored from that, and that's how I drew this. This diagram will work perfectly as drawn if Corwin has the same switches I do. If not, I'll have to flip things around. The noise antenna issue can be dealt with easily.

I really appreciate other guys stepping in to help because I get overloaded with life and don't check in for long periods of time.

EDIT: Styxx shoots, and scores! While I was posting, nonetheless. That's exactly how I'll change the on/on/on wiring.

UPDATE: Fresh diagram added to original thread.
 
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