uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
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NjuiMusic
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
yeah, I hit my strings really hard though and they went out of tune a lot, and for djent that's good but since I play a lot of techy stuff it's not good lol
yeah, I hit my strings really hard though and they went out of tune a lot, and for djent that's good but since I play a lot of techy stuff it's not good lol
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
I think I nailed it: I used the Boss/Roland metal amp, with gain at 20%, and also added a compressor, all settings at 50%, vol at 55%, which acts like a booster most of the time for distorted tones, and a T-screamer also at 50% with vol at 55%. MUCH BETTER THAN THE R-ctifier!! To such an extend that I hardly play with the R-ctifier or the 5150 setting any more! It is like R-ctifier or the 5150 just cannot amplify that low. Due is the change of the 0.059 to 0.062 (if I ever get the chance to get one lol), and it will be just perfect!
Also I found that in drop A many phrases across the 7-string's board are more convenient than in drop-B.
I think I nailed it: I used the Boss/Roland metal amp, with gain at 20%, and also added a compressor, all settings at 50%, vol at 55%, which acts like a booster most of the time for distorted tones, and a T-screamer also at 50% with vol at 55%. MUCH BETTER THAN THE R-ctifier!! To such an extend that I hardly play with the R-ctifier or the 5150 setting any more! It is like R-ctifier or the 5150 just cannot amplify that low. Due is the change of the 0.059 to 0.062 (if I ever get the chance to get one lol), and it will be just perfect!
Also I found that in drop A many phrases across the 7-string's board are more convenient than in drop-B.
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NjuiMusic
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that (oops...) a LOT of djent has like NO gain lol and compressors are life for djent lol. and yeah Drop A is preferred tuning for much djent along with Drop F/F# on an 8 string.. I am glad you found something that works for you!
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that (oops...) a LOT of djent has like NO gain lol and compressors are life for djent lol. and yeah Drop A is preferred tuning for much djent along with Drop F/F# on an 8 string.. I am glad you found something that works for you!
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
What I take out of this, at least based on the results by testing out things on the Boss me-25, which I find a reliable emulation multi-effect, and I guess in real life it wouldn't be much different:
1) traditional amps cannot amplify that low (Drop B and below)
2) modern metal amps are the thing
3) low A may sound too bassy in a bad way, especially with my 25.5" 7-string RG-like w. Blazes which are too bassy.
4) builtin-gain of the amp might work wonders for 6-strings in std tuning or drop B but not for drop-A (in combination of the pups). Sound was hollow without volume, if I tried to get rid of the extra bass of 3)
5) compressor helps solve some of 3)
6) Aggressive distortion pedals may sound too muddy
7) Light gain pedals like Tube Screamer seemed to work, at least on this occasion
Will do more testing with some combos.
What I take out of this, at least based on the results by testing out things on the Boss me-25, which I find a reliable emulation multi-effect, and I guess in real life it wouldn't be much different:
1) traditional amps cannot amplify that low (Drop B and below)
2) modern metal amps are the thing
3) low A may sound too bassy in a bad way, especially with my 25.5" 7-string RG-like w. Blazes which are too bassy.
4) builtin-gain of the amp might work wonders for 6-strings in std tuning or drop B but not for drop-A (in combination of the pups). Sound was hollow without volume, if I tried to get rid of the extra bass of 3)
5) compressor helps solve some of 3)
6) Aggressive distortion pedals may sound too muddy
7) Light gain pedals like Tube Screamer seemed to work, at least on this occasion
Will do more testing with some combos.
NjuiMusic
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
I mean Blazes are not the ideal pickup but they can work, Korn used blazes forever when they started and Munky still uses Blaze pickups.
Overdrive pedals > Distortion pedals for djent
Drop A should be fine if you have tight enough tension like at least .62 or .64
I mean Blazes are not the ideal pickup but they can work, Korn used blazes forever when they started and Munky still uses Blaze pickups.
Overdrive pedals > Distortion pedals for djent
Drop A should be fine if you have tight enough tension like at least .62 or .64
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Thanx, that's what I figured out as well. BTW what is referred as djent is IMHO basically the tone of modern metal for the last 16 yrs or so.
Thanx, that's what I figured out as well. BTW what is referred as djent is IMHO basically the tone of modern metal for the last 16 yrs or so.
EDX
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
well, then that way take a 6505 with cranked mids, low lows mid highs and a tube screamer or klon type overdrive on front, the gain on amp should be really on the low side, with the ovedrive gain low to add texture and the od vol cranked, when we talk of djent amps, none of the djent guys use rectifiers, mesa amps are almost discarded in exception of the mark v, the rest of the amps on the djent world are either a 6505 (or one of the very clones it has), or a hotrodded plexi kinda amp, one of the very popular djent hype amps is the prs archon, wich is pretty similar to a 6505/5150 specwise (the eq stack is pretty different thou), also the randall satan has been by some djenters, so simulations of those are a really good place to look
but the tubes aren't really that popular on the djent world, an AxeFX or a Kemper are far more sought after units than tube heads, specially since a lot of professionla studios can work axefx or kemper patches for you by very little money or even free, in fact keith merrow offered to make you a totally custom axefx/kemper patch from 0 the last time i checked his web page.
well, then that way take a 6505 with cranked mids, low lows mid highs and a tube screamer or klon type overdrive on front, the gain on amp should be really on the low side, with the ovedrive gain low to add texture and the od vol cranked, when we talk of djent amps, none of the djent guys use rectifiers, mesa amps are almost discarded in exception of the mark v, the rest of the amps on the djent world are either a 6505 (or one of the very clones it has), or a hotrodded plexi kinda amp, one of the very popular djent hype amps is the prs archon, wich is pretty similar to a 6505/5150 specwise (the eq stack is pretty different thou), also the randall satan has been by some djenters, so simulations of those are a really good place to look
but the tubes aren't really that popular on the djent world, an AxeFX or a Kemper are far more sought after units than tube heads, specially since a lot of professionla studios can work axefx or kemper patches for you by very little money or even free, in fact keith merrow offered to make you a totally custom axefx/kemper patch from 0 the last time i checked his web page.
NjuiMusic
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
.. name some bands you are trying to achieve cause I don't equate djent tone sounding like any modern metal of the past 16 years.. when I think modern metal I think Threat Signal, Aversions Crown, Despised Icon and others.. I don't really think the term modern metal is a thing anymore due to the fact that the time we are in is defined all by sub genres, deathcore, metal core, death metal, djent, heavy metal, brutal death, etc..
.. name some bands you are trying to achieve cause I don't equate djent tone sounding like any modern metal of the past 16 years.. when I think modern metal I think Threat Signal, Aversions Crown, Despised Icon and others.. I don't really think the term modern metal is a thing anymore due to the fact that the time we are in is defined all by sub genres, deathcore, metal core, death metal, djent, heavy metal, brutal death, etc..
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
No band in particular. IMHO most bands post 1999 starting from nu-metal or so drop tuned and oriented towards this tone.
No band in particular. IMHO most bands post 1999 starting from nu-metal or so drop tuned and oriented towards this tone.
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Thanx, very nice description. I agree that the rectifier is not appropriate, as seen by so many tests. Can you pls clarify (cause english is not my native tang), what exactly do you mean by : low lows and mid highs. At least with the 5150 the lows had to be there. Rectifier lacks lows which kills low A.
I believe I belong to the "Randal" camp as the COSM metal amp is modelled after the classic Pantera tone. But 5150 works as well.
Taking note on the 6505.
Thanx, very nice description. I agree that the rectifier is not appropriate, as seen by so many tests. Can you pls clarify (cause english is not my native tang), what exactly do you mean by : low lows and mid highs. At least with the 5150 the lows had to be there. Rectifier lacks lows which kills low A.
I believe I belong to the "Randal" camp as the COSM metal amp is modelled after the classic Pantera tone. But 5150 works as well.
Taking note on the 6505.
EDX
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Well, being from guatemala you can bet ya ass that english isn't my native language, but i've come to use idioms and even southern accent misspelling.
however, this wasn't the case when i tried to describe the amp setting ballpark.
"low lows, high mids and mid highs" was my idiotic way of writing the range of the eq setting, it actually meas for:
set the lows knob on a low set (under 5, or under the middle of the pot travel), set the mids knob on a high setting (over 5, or cranked, even dimed if you want, turn the to 11 if you can), set the highs knob on the middle of the travel (set the highs knob on a setting from 4 to 6, or any number not so far from the middle of the pot travel).
hope this clarified it man, good luck and enjoy the tone chasing
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Well, being from guatemala you can bet ya ass that english isn't my native language, but i've come to use idioms and even southern accent misspelling.
however, this wasn't the case when i tried to describe the amp setting ballpark.
"low lows, high mids and mid highs" was my idiotic way of writing the range of the eq setting, it actually meas for:
set the lows knob on a low set (under 5, or under the middle of the pot travel), set the mids knob on a high setting (over 5, or cranked, even dimed if you want, turn the to 11 if you can), set the highs knob on the middle of the travel (set the highs knob on a setting from 4 to 6, or any number not so far from the middle of the pot travel).
hope this clarified it man, good luck and enjoy the tone chasing
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Obsessive Compulsive
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Djent guys fret too much about the gear they use and spend miniscule time on practising...WTH...it's just power chords (or none at all in drop tuning)...no?
Djent guys fret too much about the gear they use and spend miniscule time on practising...WTH...it's just power chords (or none at all in drop tuning)...no?
Χάρης
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
The only Ibanez I would buy for Djent would be the RGIT20FE-SBF.
- Comes with active pickups (81/85).
- No tremolo so tuning is way easier.
- Gotoh Magnum Lock tuners which will keep you in tune.
- And last but not least, look at dat neck
The only Ibanez I would buy for Djent would be the RGIT20FE-SBF.
- Comes with active pickups (81/85).
- No tremolo so tuning is way easier.
- Gotoh Magnum Lock tuners which will keep you in tune.
- And last but not least, look at dat neck
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
I was practising for 30 years then I heard my nephew and felt like a tone noob. Besides, most of them can do at least 80's shredding and also tone chasing is an art by itself.
I was practising for 30 years then I heard my nephew and felt like a tone noob. Besides, most of them can do at least 80's shredding and also tone chasing is an art by itself.
Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Neck-through is cool, but bolt-ons are not inferior at all.
Χάρης;3972471 said:The only Ibanez I would buy for Djent would be the RGIT20FE-SBF.
- Comes with active pickups (81/85).
- No tremolo so tuning is way easier.
- Gotoh Magnum Lock tuners which will keep you in tune.
- And last but not least, look at dat neck
Neck-through is cool, but bolt-ons are not inferior at all.
GilmourD
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Re: uv70p for Djent or a different guitar and with which pups?
Periphery and Animals as Leaders are pretty much the first bands I think of when somebody mentions djent. Keith Merrow has a little djent in his tone.
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Go listen to Periphery and tell me that's all power chords.
Periphery and Animals as Leaders are pretty much the first bands I think of when somebody mentions djent. Keith Merrow has a little djent in his tone.
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