Valvetronics guys---

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Well, now that I've cried in my beer long enough over the Giants I'm going to go play with the Valvetronix. The first thing I'll do is put it back to the other side of the room where it was before I started hearing this stuff. I didn't een think about that, but it seemed to start after I moved it. Gear, you're right on the money--it sounds like digital clipping. It is also much worse with the Strats. Maybe the brighter sound, the worse the clipping or overload. When I EQ it darker it gets better, but then I can't use the sound cuz it stinks. That "heartbeat" that I hear is only when I'm not playing. Sounds like a fump fump......fump fump...almost like something loaded up with effects, but there are none running.

Happy Dude, according to an email I got from Vox, the electronics in the Vt series and VTX series are the same, but the cabinet and speakers on the VTX are much better, therefore a better sounding amp plus the extra models, memory etc... The VTX series is also a much improved version where a ton of the bugs have been resolved.....except for my amp, LOL.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

I was just going by harmony central VT posts since the VTH series has not been around long enough for me to judge it based on merit...

I sure as hell would not go out and buy a VT

sounds like those combos may not be loud enough, and that the panels vibrate and are made of cheap materials?

good idea to have the closed back though...I may get one of their next generation if quality improves...

hopefully no problems!

That's why I went with the head and not the combo,plus I waited on the VTX series so they could get the bugs out! The newer series doesn't have alot of issues,if any?

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Well, now that I've cried in my beer long enough over the Giants I'm going to go play with the Valvetronix. The first thing I'll do is put it back to the other side of the room where it was before I started hearing this stuff. I didn't een think about that, but it seemed to start after I moved it. Gear, you're right on the money--it sounds like digital clipping. It is also much worse with the Strats. Maybe the brighter sound, the worse the clipping or overload. When I EQ it darker it gets better, but then I can't use the sound cuz it stinks. That "heartbeat" that I hear is only when I'm not playing. Sounds like a fump fump......fump fump...almost like something loaded up with effects, but there are none running.

Happy Dude, according to an email I got from Vox, the electronics in the Vt series and VTX series are the same, but the cabinet and speakers on the VTX are much better, therefore a better sounding amp plus the extra models, memory etc... The VTX series is also a much improved version where a ton of the bugs have been resolved.....except for my amp, LOL.

Again...I felt the head was the smarter move so I could keep things like cabinet rattle,heat,and cheap cab construction,(speakers) out of the equation....I also get to use the amp with different cabs,which is very cool also! I did alot of research on this amp before I bought it,as I do with most everything I ever buy.

75LP.....You have a combo or the head? Combo I thought..

 

[34029324079]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

good to hear the bugs are out/improved...other than the VT comments/imperfections about bugs that hopefully are resolved, I am personally impressed by the amp

hope this one issue can be figured out for 75lespaul, I don't have any advice though

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

good to hear the bugs are out/improved...other than the VT comments, I am personally impressed by the amp

I Own a few vintage tube amps*Fenders,Marshall etc...I use this Vox amp about 90% of the time now...I also own the first version Fender Cyber Twin that I bought new in 2001.It's given me 0 problems also and has been a great amp,but this Vox edges it out and I Like it alot...

Guess I feel lucky I got a really good one! I'm usually on the unlucky side of the fence with alot of stuff....:laugh2:

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

I know this is overly simple, but maybe overlooked. Is it possible that the noisegate is set on the verge?......and it's pumping because of the picking dynamics? If you haven't already, find the noisegate knob/button and turn it off on all your patches. See if that clears it up.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

I know this is overly simple, but maybe overlooked. Is it possible that the noisegate is set on the verge?......and it's pumping because of the picking dynamics? If you haven't already, find the noisegate knob/button and turn it off on all your patches. See if that clears it up.

Good point GJ! It's not a function that can easily change since you have to hold down a button and then turn a knob to change the gate settings,but ya never know?

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

WOO HOO !!!!




It was the tube--the great sounding, stinking Groove Tubes 12AX7 Mullared reissue. Wow. I'm glad I only bought that thing for a SINGLE tube amp, and not for like two or FOUR!

Man, am I relived. Plus you guys wanna laugh? Who says this amp ain't worth a nickel? When I cracked it open a nickel fell out. I told you I heard something rattling around. My daughters confused it for a piggy bank. The final result is, it works, it sounds great, you still gotta change the stock tube but DON'T get a GT Mullard. Everyone was right, they suck.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Again...I felt the head was the smarter move so I could keep things like cabinet rattle,heat,and cheap cab construction,(speakers) out of the equation....I also get to use the amp with different cabs,which is very cool also! I did alot of research on this amp before I bought it,as I do with most everything I ever buy.

75LP.....You have a combo or the head? Combo I thought..

Yep, I got the combo, but I have that Ear Candy 2X12 on the way because I can really hear that this amp will open up with more speakers. No really, I can....really. :fingersx:

 

[34029324079]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

good to hear, I am just in the learning stages too

Ill remember that about the tube and head vs combo if I ever end up getting one

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

I've been playing with this amp for about a half hour or so now with the new JJ tube and what I'm learning is that--at least with the amp I have--it is much more forgiving with humbuckers. That "heartbeat" is now gone and the "digital distortion" sound is completely gone with the Les Pauls, but with my strats it's still there if the gain, volume and treble are pegged. This doesn't really produce a good sound with a strat anyway, but it's still there. On any amp setting I can peg all the dials with the Pauls and no "digital" distortion. Using the compressor with the strats helps out but again, I would RARELY use a sound like this with a strat anyway. The Voxes sound so great with both guitars, as do the the Fenders and the JTM 45 patch.

I pretty much learned tonight, that although it's supposed to emulate the original amps tone controls, let your EARS decide the sound and don't try to copy settings u use with the Marshalls, Voxes etc like I was doing.

This JJ tube sounds just as good if not better than the Mullard copy. I know the GT-M was blown because every patch sounded fuzzy bad with any guitar, any patch, any setting. The JJ cleaned that right up and added what seems to be a little more "fatness" to the sound. What a nice tube this is.

 

[ponch]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

oh, hey yeah well yeah i have the korg tone workes which is the pre amp & it sometimes looses output in the clean channel but maybe it is the same probem with your amp? But, Maybe its cause they are the vtx serries, call korg & DON'T VOID THE WARRENTY!!!!!!!!

 

[JumpMarine]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

That's interesting about the GT tube. The GT has been the best sounding tube in my VT of the few that I've tried. I bought the GT for my little silvertone and it was completely unimpressive in there. When I replaced it in the silvertone with an old 7025 that amp came to life. But it has brought out the best of the Vox over the JJ that I previously had in it. Not that the JJ sounded bad, the GT just had that something extra.

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

That's interesting about the GT tube. The GT has been the best sounding tube in my VT of the few that I've tried. I bought the GT for my little silvertone and it was completely unimpressive in there. When I replaced it in the silvertone with an old 7025 that amp came to life. But it has brought out the best of the Vox over the JJ that I previously had in it. Not that the JJ sounded bad, the GT just had that something extra.

Maybe I just got a better run on the JJ, or a lesser run on the GT. I got matching triode JJ per Bob at Eurotubes.

 

[Oldslowhand]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Glad to hear you sorted your amp (Memo to self buy two tubes!!!)
One of the top tips from the valvetronix site is to take out the Noise reduction maybe this might help with the cliping. I've only had mine a few days but it seems fine on coil splits this way.
Graham

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Glad you got your amp working,and as I've said,I've had no problems with mine....Get yourself an RCA 12AX7 black or grey long plate,that's what I have in this amp and my Fender Cyber Twin...To me it seems to fatten and warm up things? Maybe not,but I tell myself it does! LOL....Plus I have very good reliability with these tubes...I have them in my 66 Pro Reverb and we ordered a set for my bass player in my band's Ampeg head with the same results...We hear warmer(not darker)rounder,and stronger output when we use the RCAs...

Played through my VTH last night into my Marshall V30 4x12 on the UK 90s setting after listening to Erik's clips and Wow,I Love this amp!

I'm happy for you buddy!

I pretty much learned tonight, that although it's supposed to emulate the original amps tone controls, let your EARS decide the sound and don't try to copy settings u use with the Marshalls, Voxes etc like I was doing.

I just twist dials until it sounds great....Took me about 2 minutes to dial in some great UK 90s tones last night with the V30s...The V30s really help the UK tones with this amp,as it corrects the mids...I Only use 2 cabs loaded with V30s,A 2x12 and this 4x12...I like these speakers with this amp the best.

Here's the tubes I use....Think I'll get more for later! Just bought this set..

http://cgi.ebay.com/BEAUTIFUL-MATCH...ryZ73379QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Here's another set...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...6485&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_IT

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Tell your kid you're supposed to drop $100 bills inside that amp,but no small chump change! LOL

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Tell your kid you're supposed to drop $100 bills inside that amp,but no small chump change! LOL

HAHA, gonna raid their piggy bank tonight. They got more cash than me!

 

[75lespaul]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

Glad to hear you sorted your amp (Memo to self buy two tubes!!!)
One of the top tips from the valvetronix site is to take out the Noise reduction maybe this might help with the cliping. I've only had mine a few days but it seems fine on coil splits this way.
Graham

It may just be my strat's pickups. The humbuckers don't do this at all, even with every knob on the amp pegged, hee hee. The strats however don't dig the treble all the way up on any patch except for the higher gain stuff. Like I said though these are tones I wouldn't use anyway, but since the strats are more "trebly" maybe it just drives the amp where it can't go? Then again, maybe it's gonna fry, who knows. I am back now to getting really driving and creamy tones again with the strats from the Vox and Fender amps, which even in the real ones never seemed to like a lot of treble boost anyway. At least to me.

 

[STRATDELUXER97]

Re: Valvetronics guys---

HAHA, gonna raid their piggy bank tonight. They got more cash than me!

I think you know my reputation for good ears and good tone from all the pedal mods etc and being a part of this forum for so long?....Trust me and get a long plate black plate RCA 12AX7 tube! I just bought more to have for a later time....These are great tubes!

I've got em in all of my vintage Fender tube amps and the Vox and Cyber Twin...Everytime I notice rounder,fuller,stronger and tighter tone! My bass player is using them in his Ampeg SVT head with the same results...They aren't cheap,but they're great tubes! Your tone is worth it(At least in my case it is)....