Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

[LunaticFringe]

I want a leslie/vibe sound. I've been looking at the line 6 roto-machine but recently I've been looking into the Voodoo Labs Micro Vibe. Both look nice. Has anybody had any experience with either of these, and can share some pros/cons?

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Do you want a rotating speaker simulator or a Uni-Vibe clone? They are different. (While the Vibe was supposed to be a rotating speaker simulator it's really a phaser). The Rotomachine is kind of cool, it gets the idea across for cheaper than some of the other sims (Boss, H&K) but it's a bit of a one trick pony in my mind. The sound of different guitars is homogenized into the Line 6 sound, if you know what I mean. I haven't played the Micro Vibe but I've heard decent things about it. I'm not sure if my opinion on Vibe pedals echos most people's views though, I think the Dunlop is better than the Fulltone, and I like the FoxRox the best (in the CC2).

But yeah, Vibe vs. Rotating Speaker, they're different enough for me to have both...

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

What would you say is the difference. I basically want something that can give my sound a shimmering kind of life to it, like a chorus, but without that "many repetitions simultaneously but slightly ouy of tune" chorus coloration.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Sounds like a Uni-Vibe to me, although the part about many repetitions kind of throws me. All of the basic modulation pedals are going to have a cyclic feel to them, maybe chorus being the least so. I wonder how something along the lines of a Boss Dimension C would do? Both the Vibe and Rotating Speaker will give you the pulsing sound, although by turning the intensity down on the Vibe and turning the speed down as well, you get some nice swirl.

What examples do you have of the tone you are looking for?

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Are you looking for a David Gilmour "Breathe In the Air" sound? A Stevie Ray "Cold Shot" sound? A Jimi Hendrix "Machine Gun" sound?

- Keith

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

You might want to consider the blue L6 MM-4, modulation modeler. I know that sometimes analog pedals sound richer, but each one does only one thing. With the MM-4, you can shape and tweak your own original modulation sounds, and quite often I find sounds that are even cooler than stock FX tones.

Anytime you need a unique sound for a clean verse or something, you simply spin the rotary dial on the L6 and search for something that fits. It's a useful pedal, since it's got all the modulation FX. It's vibe isn't too bad, but it can do underwater spacey sounds and even things like a Helicopter flying off in the distance. It's a fun pedal.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

It's vibe isn't too bad, but it can do underwater spacey sounds and even things like a Helicopter flying off in the distance.

I used to have a Casio keyboard that made helicopter sounds. Can your pedal sound like an audience applauding?

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Sounds like a Uni-Vibe to me, although the part about many repetitions kind of throws me.

What examples do you have of the tone you are looking for?

David Gilmour. Hendrix is a big one too, but mainly that subtle warm Gilmour shimmer.

I understood chorus to be many repetitions of the same note but each one being slightly out of tune. I'm looking for a sound that is more organic and warm. I like the line 6, I guess alot of my question revolves around whether the roto-machine could emulate a vibe sound. The whole thing confuses me because I thought that leslie and vibe were basically the same effect. Wasn't the vibe made to be a stompbox sized leslie anyways? How do they differ enough to be in different categories, what is the main difference in characteristics? I listened to clips and it's just not clicking, they sound the same. It could be that I haven't heard the right clips.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

For Gilmour-esque shimmer, I use either a Sweet Sound Mojo Vibe or an Analog Man Stereo Clone Chorus. Mike Piera (Analog Man) does a good job of explaining the differences between the Uni-Vibe and a chorus here.

For the record, David Gilmour dumped the Uni-Vibe, in favor of the phaser and chorus, sometime in the mid-70s.

Hope this helps!

- Keith

 

[J Moose]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

What would you say is the difference. I basically want something that can give my sound a shimmering kind of life to it, like a chorus, but without that "many repetitions simultaneously but slightly ouy of tune" chorus coloration.

Rotovbie orother leslie simultor is probably what you want. Uni-vibes are deep & throby... the Hendrix thang. Stevie used the leslie cabs a lot more...

Both are good. Different but equally good.

 

[J Moose]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

David Gilmour dumped the Uni-Vibe, in favor of the phaser and chorus, sometime in the mid-70s.

He was touring in the '90s & beyond with a uni-vibe that his tech yanked out of the floor box & rackmounted. It's all over Momentary Lapse & the "Pulse" set...

 

[JohnnyGuitar]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

I didn't like the the Micro Vibe - it was too subtle. It as like and added nasal phase to the tone without getting close to radical at any setting.

 

[Gamera]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

I own the Microvibe. It is a very subtle effect, kinda like a chorus+. Personally I've been a little disappointed with it since I was looking for more of a wobbly, vibrating, almost phaser-like effect ala Hendrix and Robin Trower. I've not been able to coax those sounds from it. And forget about playing with any sort of gain as the effect is so subtle that any sort of gain or distortion seems to totally mask whatever the pedal adds.

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

It seems like the analogman chorus is what I'm looking for. It doesn't have that cheesy sound that the others have (even the small clone comes off that way to me) and I bet with my small stone phaser on a slow setting I could get some great Gilmourish sounds.

 

[Stratman]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

I want a leslie/vibe sound. I've been looking at the line 6 roto-machine but recently I've been looking into the Voodoo Labs Micro Vibe. Both look nice. Has anybody had any experience with either of these, and can share some pros/cons?

PM me and I will send you this piece of crap. MicroVibe does not even come close to a Vibratone or Leslie sound.

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

PM me and I will send you this piece of crap. MicroVibe does not even come close to a Vibratone or Leslie sound.

For free?:naughty:

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Small Stone and Analogman Chorus would be a wicked 1-2 punch of modulation. I love the clips I've heard of the Analogman.

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Vibe: Micro Vibe or Roto-Machine

Yeah, the only problem is I won't be able to afford the analogman chorus for a long time. If I'm going to drop that much on a chorus, what's another 100 bucks or so to get the Bi-Chorus? I'm getting a Teese wah this year, a Sunlion next year, and then I can justify the Chorus. Really, I need the the chorus before I need the fuzz but I have a feeling that real fuzzface clones are dwindling and won't be around forever with the good transistors.