Vintage E34Ls likes ?

Dr.Mavashi

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So I ran JJ E34Ls .... I dont think I will be using anything else in the power section any time soon. I like the tightness and the responsiveness of the lows with tone of EL34s But I want to branch out for a bit and have a connection on some vintage inventories ... So, what were the brand names in the vintage past that behaved/ performed lake E34Ls?

Thank you Dudes!
 
Re: Vintage E34Ls likes ?

Mullard has always been the top dog in the NOS EL34 market... They will eat your JJ's for breakfast. There are many versions available though could write an essay on single and double getters and what not but really any are leaps and bounds above the JJ's. But sadly they are getting hard to find and then usually command big prices.

Amperex and Phillips are other heavy hitters. Some cool and not so vintage alternatives are the original Tesla EL34 they have a righteous tone and arent so expensive but tough to find. German made tubes from RFT and Siemens can still be found they were made in the 80's and are pretty reasonably price compared to the older NOS glass. Mesa Boogie sold the Siemens EL34's for years labeled as STR-450's if you can find a set jump on them.

In more modern offerings the original Svetlana EL34's had excellent tone but you gotta be careful since they shut down that factory a bunch of B stock was dumped on the market.

I'm not as much of a fan of the new stuff coming out of russia at the moment the mullard reissues (which they are not they are only in name) are Ok tubes but no better than your JJ's Same with the EH's and Tung Sols and what not.
 
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I've done lots of tube rolling w vintage preamp valves, but never got into doing the same with there power section; they don't last long enough for me to find the investment worthwhile.
 
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The E34L is more like a KT77 than a traditional EL34. It usually requires a different bias setting and the plate dissapation is greater than a standard EL34. KT stands for kinkless tetrode and was a specialty of MO valve company in Britian. Kinkless meant that it didn't have a kink in the waveform at the bias point when viewed on a scope. MO stood for Mullard Osram. A beam tetrode is a design that has a beam (the beam of electrons flowing through the tube) forming plate, in addition to the suppressor grid. The standard EL34 is not a beam tetrode but a pentode. A pentode has an additional grid to adjust the internal capcitance of the tube. (triode = cathode, anode, control grid, Tetrode= cathode, anode, control grid, suppressor grid, pentode= cathode, anode, control grid, S grid , additional grid)

I really like the American version of the EL34; the 6CA7 in the bigger bottle. It also has stronger, tighter bass than a traditional EL34 but still sounds and responds mostly like an EL34. Their were two brands; Sylvania and GE.

The EL34 was invented in the early 1950s by Phillips in Holland. Phillips and Mullard were different divisions of the same parent company. Mullard was based in Britian, and Phillips in Holland. Amperex was also a division of Phillips. All the tube companys developed their own EL34s for sale. I also like the German EL34s for traditional EL34 tone. The Siemens EL34 was identical to Mullard's. The Telefunken was in a slightly smaller bottle. The Siemens was also built by the RFT company and sometimes by Mullard and sometimes by Phillips. Actually RFT and Siemens were close to the same company. After WWII the German radar company GEMA was absorbed by Siemens in the west, and became RFT in the east.

In Cechzslovakia the standard tube company was Tesla. When Tesla went under in the early 90s it was taken over by JJ.
 
Re: Vintage E34Ls likes ?

The E34L is more like a KT77 than a traditional EL34. It usually requires a different bias setting and the plate dissapation is greater than a standard EL34. KT stands for kinkless tetrode and was a specialty of MO valve company in Britian. Kinkless meant that it didn't have a kink in the waveform at the bias point when viewed on a scope. MO stood for Mullard Osram. A beam tetrode is a design that has a beam (the beam of electrons flowing through the tube) forming plate, in addition to the suppressor grid. The standard EL34 is not a beam tetrode but a pentode. A pentode has an additional grid to adjust the internal capcitance of the tube. (triode = cathode, anode, control grid, Tetrode= cathode, anode, control grid, suppressor grid, pentode= cathode, anode, control grid, S grid , additional grid)

I really like the American version of the EL34; the 6CA7 in the bigger bottle. It also has stronger, tighter bass than a traditional EL34 but still sounds and responds mostly like an EL34. Their were two brands; Sylvania and GE.

The EL34 was invented in the early 1950s by Phillips in Holland. Phillips and Mullard were different divisions of the same parent company. Mullard was based in Britian, and Phillips in Holland. Amperex was also a division of Phillips. All the tube companys developed their own EL34s for sale. I also like the German EL34s for traditional EL34 tone. The Siemens EL34 was identical to Mullard's. The Telefunken was in a slightly smaller bottle. The Siemens was also built by the RFT company and sometimes by Mullard and sometimes by Phillips. Actually RFT and Siemens were close to the same company. After WWII the German radar company GEMA was absorbed by Siemens in the west, and became RFT in the east.

In Cechzslovakia the standard tube company was Tesla. When Tesla went under in the early 90s it was taken over by JJ.

I'm glad you mentioned the 6CA7, which is also a beam-forming tetrode. I'm loving the JJ version myself. EH also makes them, but I hear they sound like straight-up 6L6GCs.
 
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I've tried the JJ's 6CA7 and their KT-77. I love 'em. Really, if I could work the bias out for it, I'd love to run 6CA7's and KT-88's together.
 
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So, it appears that if I am to look for a "vintage/old school' E34Ls I will have look at KT77s as this might be the closest match. Did I get that right ?


Thank you Dudes !!!
 
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