vintage trem questions

[wfswfs]

Hi all i have a question
Been looking on the forums regarding tuning stability on strwt vintage trem system.

What I'm facing is that when i bend my strings on the trem. Its goes outta tune n ill need to dive my bar to get them a back in tune...

Tired tuning till when bending strings it wont go out... but when i dive my bar everything goes haywire...

My trem claw is screw way into the body. Almost maximum. N im still having problems.

Whats the problem n how to solve em.

 

[Jocelyn]

Re: vintage trem questions

Let me get this right . When you bend the string it goes out of tune, and then when you div the trem it gets back in tune? get the nut cut well and lubricate it. It will settle a few of the tuning issues. What happens here is when you bend the string it is getting stuck at the nut groves, then when you push the bar they get back in place. I love the vintage trems, and when set up well work well.

 

[wfswfs]

Re: vintage trem questions

Let me get this right . When you bend the string it goes out of tune, and then when you div the trem it gets back in tune? get the nut cut well and lubricate it. It will settle a few of the tuning issues. What happens here is when you bend the string it is getting stuck at the nut groves, then when you push the bar they get back in place. I love the vintage trems, and when set up well work well.

Alright will have a try...
I was using 10s n 5springs at the back previously.
Will get a new nut to see how it goes...

My ideal is using 10s with 3 springs to do bending n diving without going out... will things be better of i use 2 screws on the bridge instead of the provided 6?

 

[koshikas]

Re: vintage trem questions

Alright will have a try...
I was using 10s n 5springs at the back previously.
Will get a new nut to see how it goes...

My ideal is using 10s with 3 springs to do bending n diving without going out... will things be better of i use 2 screws on the bridge instead of the provided 6?

using 5 springs with claw all the way in for gauge 10, man that is the first time i ve heard of such. even with vintage springs, 5 springs is more than enough to keep the bridge still. your nut may require some work like suggested earlier, and i still can figure out how 5 springs dont have enough tension.

if u are a heavy trem user, using just 2 screws might wear them out real soon.

 

[ItsaBass]

Re: vintage trem questions

What?

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: vintage trem questions

A properly cut nut, a good set up, and some Big Bends Nut Sauce should fix you up, whether you use 3-4-5 springs. I always used 5 on my old 1960 Strat.

Bill

 

[zenmindbeginner]

Re: vintage trem questions

The springs won't help it stay in tune they just provide counter force for the proper string tension.

1). Lubing all of the contact points with Nut Sauce, graphite grease or even chapstick is a start.

2). Lube the string trees too and make sure they are not screwed in too tight.

3). Get a pro cut nut

4). Get locking tuners

Other than that, make sure you are really good at putting on strings because tuning problems can start there.

 

[wfswfs]

Re: vintage trem questions

Hi all...

Updates!

Ive got myself
Graph tech nut
Graph tech string savers saddles.

Seems like tuning is much stable but im still facing g string going out of tune after sending . slightly.

Ive also used the string lock method to string with my locking tuners.

Now trying to minimize it.

 

[LReese]

Re: vintage trem questions

I think what he might be experiencing is a problem at the bridge - that's assuming his nut is good, string install technique is good, etc...

He stretches G string after a bend, string comes back a little sharp because its caught somewhere at the bridge - a slight dive takes care of that issue but throws the others off slightly.

Make sure the exit hole on the bridge plate is smooth and lightly lubricated. Maybe a good tech might take a more aggressive action smoothing those bearing holes, but you can only do so much.