Volume Pedal or OD/Boost Pedal?

Mad-Max

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I might be in the market for something that can add a little volume and extra gain to my solos while playing live or when I'm at band practice.

Recently, my mates were telling me that they have a hard time hearing me when I go to do my solos. Now, my amp has a solo boost built into it, and I've used it on occasion, but even when I use that, they say they have a hard time hearing me. I don't know if it just needs to be adjusted or what, but I'm gonna try it one more time to see what happens.

So, in order for me to be heard, what do I need? I've heard people get volume for solos with OD's and such, but then I've heard about Volume pedals as well. What's the difference? What's truly going to get me there?

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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We definitely need to know what sort of amp you're playing, how much dirt you're getting from it, and whether or not it has an effects loop.
 
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The difference between boost and volume pedals:
They are opposite in this regard...set the amp volume for rhythm, then increase the signal strength with a boost pedal. OR, set the amps' volume at solo level with the volume pedal near 'toe down' and reduce the volume for rhythm by pushing heel down, thus lowering the signal strength to the amp.

The Morley Volume Plus also has a knob to set this minimal level (heel down) so you can return to the same level each time. Most ordinary vol. pedals are mute at full heel down.

The volume pedal is like having a master volume knob on the guitar, but operated by the foot.
 
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I play a Mesa Mark V, I have the gain around 1 o' clock with a TS9 always on to add a little bit of extra grit and to tighten things up. I actually like to have mids in my tone. Makes things cut, and I personally like the tone more when it has mids.
 
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We definitely need to know what sort of amp you're playing, how much dirt you're getting from it, and whether or not it has an effects loop.

Also need to know how your tone controls are set up. If your mids are heavily scooped, you'll likely need to re-EQ your amp. As LTF said, we hear midrange best and that's also the frequency range that guitar naturally occupies. All of this is why you can't scoop mids in a band context and still be heard.
 
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Also need to know how your tone controls are set up. If your mids are heavily scooped, you'll likely need to re-EQ your amp. As LTF said, we hear midrange best and that's also the frequency range that guitar naturally occupies. All of this is why you can't scoop mids in a band context and still be heard.

As stated earlier, I use mids. Bottom line. I don't use too much because I don't want it to sound too honky, but nevertheless, I still use them!

It's just I need more volume for when I'm doing leads. That's essentially the problem here.
 
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you have 3 channels and an onboard eq in a mesa mark five. try working with what headroom your amp has on offer and reduce the stuff in your signal chain. Mesas have an incredible amount of versatility in their eq sections, but some of the hidden gems take a while to find. Turn off your tubescreamer until you have got a workable setup as far as channels and tones go, then it can just be icing on the cake.
Are your speakers v30s? They cut pretty well for leads.
 
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Personally, I would try and work out a rhythm tone that worked for me straight into the amp, then use the TS-9 for leads. With all the EQ options on the Mark V, I'd at least give it a shot, then if that didn't work out I would look around for a boost/OD as I see fit. It wouldn't hurt to try this, in my opinion.
 
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I play a Mesa Mark V, I have the gain around 1 o' clock with a TS9 always on to add a little bit of extra grit and to tighten things up. I actually like to have mids in my tone. Makes things cut, and I personally like the tone more when it has mids.

TWA Triskelion Pedal. You can bump your mids or any frequency and it helps you cut through the mix. It also add incredible harmonics and touch sensitivity.
 
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Another way to get some volume is an EQ and/or clean boost in your FX loop , I would change the TS9 to max drive ,tone wherever you want it and gain at 25% or 9 o'clock or less. Your clean channel will be affected more in volume by boosts then the dirt channels. Set your EQ with a mid spike and evenly set the bass and treble for a "dry" cutting sound
 
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Never used a volume pedal, but I do have a DOD Bi-FET Preamp pedal that is strictly a clean boost. I love it. Then again, I use most of my overdrives with the drive/gain set at or near zero, but I boost the volume to goose my amp.
 
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I used a Morley Power Wha Boost back in the day the thing was awesome. Nice boost, volume pedal and wah built into one unit .I still have it but it is retired. I no longer gig with it.
 
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If you don't want to color the tone, then no. The EP Booster is marketed as an Echoplex preamp (but it doesn't use a TIS58 nor does it run at 22volts like a real Echoplex preamp)... this will color your tone somewhat regardless.

You just want something truly "transparent" that gives + "x" dB gain (where "x" is a number... around +20dB max I would think would suffice).

Time for the solo, stomp on the clean boost. Back to rhythm, stomp off.
Sounds like the TC Electronic Mini Spark to me. It actually has the option to just increase the volume with the press of a button, and also serve as an OD. You have the option to have either one or the other. Pretty cool if you ask me.

you have 3 channels and an onboard eq in a mesa mark five. try working with what headroom your amp has on offer and reduce the stuff in your signal chain. Mesas have an incredible amount of versatility in their eq sections, but some of the hidden gems take a while to find. Turn off your tubescreamer until you have got a workable setup as far as channels and tones go, then it can just be icing on the cake.
Are your speakers v30s? They cut pretty well for leads.
I actually have quite a workable tone by itself, but I like throwing the OD in it to give me some extra bite and to tighten up the signal a bit. Yes, my cab has Vintage 30's in them. I'm not saying my tone doesn't cut already. In fact, the guys can hear me most of the time during rhythm sections, but when it comes to leads, I'm just not loud enough. I need more volume so that I can be heard, not necessarily because I need to cut in the mix.

Personally, I would try and work out a rhythm tone that worked for me straight into the amp, then use the TS-9 for leads. With all the EQ options on the Mark V, I'd at least give it a shot, then if that didn't work out I would look around for a boost/OD as I see fit. It wouldn't hurt to try this, in my opinion.
Yeah, but the TS9 is a mandatory pedal that I have to have on at all times, besides when I'm doing cleans and such. It's just such a huge part of my tone that I can't live without it.

TWA Triskelion Pedal. You can bump your mids or any frequency and it helps you cut through the mix. It also add incredible harmonics and touch sensitivity.
I'll be sure to check that one out, thanks for the suggestion!

Another way to get some volume is an EQ and/or clean boost in your FX loop , I would change the TS9 to max drive ,tone wherever you want it and gain at 25% or 9 o'clock or less. Your clean channel will be affected more in volume by boosts then the dirt channels. Set your EQ with a mid spike and evenly set the bass and treble for a "dry" cutting sound
I literally have my TS9 set exactly how you explained it, so that would only work if I didn't do that already. I use my 5 band graphic EQ all the time too. It's how I've been able to sculpt my tone the way I've been able to.

If you end up deciding to just get a boost pedal, you can't beat the MXR Micro Amp.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/mxr-m-133-micro-amp-pedal

But if you want to tailor the tone of your boosted signal (to make it thicker or more cutting as well as louder), then the Micro Amp+ is really great.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/mxr-micro-amp-guitar-effects-pedal
I've looked into the micro amp as well. I'm probably going to demo some of these pedals here in the very near future. Just got to get to a location that has them.
 
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Keeley Katana. If you want more mids, pull the knob out.
 
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Before you buy anything, definitely play with the Solo boost feature. I know on my Lonestar 100/50, I just used the Solo boost, I never needed a clean boost pedal until I got rid of it. If that doesn't work, then as others have already said, you really can't go wrong with the MXR Micro amp.
 
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My favorite boost for solos is a simple EQ in the loop. I actually use two, one for tone shaping, another for boost. I've tried other things for a boost, but the EQ seems to work the best.
 
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MXR Micro Amp - allowing everyone to hear what a hack I am above the band for over twenty years….
 
Re: Volume Pedal or OD/Boost Pedal?

Before you buy anything, definitely play with the Solo boost feature. I know on my Lonestar 100/50, I just used the Solo boost, I never needed a clean boost pedal until I got rid of it. If that doesn't work, then as others have already said, you really can't go wrong with the MXR Micro amp.

I'm gonna try it one more time at the next full band rehearsal to see where it goes. If not, then it'll be pedal hunting I go!
 
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