warehouse guitar speakers?

[jackson111]

anyone had any experience with these? i am looking to up grade my blackstar (which has 70/80's) in it which i understand to be a budget speaker for celestion. i wanted something like a vintage 30 possible and i ran across these. are they any good?

 

[JeffB]

Re: warehouse guitar speakers?

Bought one myself recently and posted a similar thread. They will be an upgrade from your 70/80, but IME they are only loosely based on the Celestion speaker they claim to be an upgrade for. After break in (which took forever compared to a Celestion), I was not impressed, as the WGS was missing some key elements that make the Celestion version so well thought of. If you want a specific Celestion, buy a Celestion.

 

[Jeffrec]

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I really like them. I'm using the Green Berets, and to my ears, they sound better than Greenbacks. The Veteran 30's sound great in my friend's JCM800.

 

[CTN]

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The search function is your friend (if/when it works).

 

[Ascension]

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Have a 70/Eighty and a pair pf WGS's right now in my 2 cabs sitting in this room.
First off I really like the 70/Eighty that is in my Blackstar 1/12 cab as it's just a big fat and tough speaker seeing it so far has survived the 120 watt Peavy Ultra + I have been beating it with.
Here is a quick demo of that cab with the 70/Eighty with the Peavy. This is Red channel, Green channel ,Yellow channel with my Washburn MG 102 and a Custom 5.
https://app.box.com/s/6fr36qw34tai1uyn6tbt
On The WGS's I have had both a a Vet 30 and a Retro 30 in that same cab that pair now resides in my old 1980's Fender 2/12.
I actually like the WGS's better than the Vin 30 H-30 or 75 Celestians I had.
What are you planning to run through them and what's your target tone?

 

[jackson111]

Re: warehouse guitar speakers?

ok i hope this answers your question. i will be using them in an ht stage 60 (it is a 2 x 12 combo) and my target is pretty wide, my band does some country and all the way to hair metal stuff like bon jovi, poison kinda pop metal and everything in between. we mainly doe classic and southern rock like free, lynard skynard, molly hatchet, ted nudgent, bad company, etc....... for guitars i have a charvel wild card that has passive pickups (h-s-s) all duncans, i have a charvel ds-1 with blackouts, i have a jackson with a jb bridge and jazz neck, and a washburn with jb bridge and jazz neck

 

[Ascension]

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It does. The 2 WGS speakers I have real experience with are the Vet and Retro 30's. The Vet is darker and more scooped and if you need more thick and less mids would warm up your rig from the 70/Eighty. The retro is tighter on the bottom and brighter on the top with more mids than the Vet but not as "honky" or harsh as the Vintage 30 Celestian. The retro will be much tighter deeper in the bottom and smoother than the 70/Eighty. For the more classic Southern rock stuff the WGS Retro would probably be where I would go. I will also say this I have run the retro and the 70/Eight together with my Zinky Velvet combo loaded with a retro on top of the Blackstar cab with the 70'Eighty and they don't make a bad pair.

 

[IM4Tone]

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WGS suggests their models are similar to specific Celestions on their website. I have found them to not be similar IMO. I have a 2X12 cab w/ a WGS Retro 30 and a Reaper HP and another cab with a Celestion V30 and G12H. Celestions are much brighter to my ears, WGS much warmer. I like both pairings, but use the WGS more frequently, so I guess I'd conclude I like the WGS a little more. And the comment above about WGS taking forever to break-in, I must agree with...probably 100 hours at around 95 to 100 db.

As for Celestion 70/80, I like it also, but again, it's brighter than the WGS.

 

[Adieu]

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check out used cabs @ your local GC, I've seen a bunch of Warehouse aka WGS-loaded cabs in the locations in my area... look em up for reference not purchase, they're priced like Celestion-loaded ones in my experience, but the speakers themselves cost 2x less to buy new

PS you can see MOST of any GC's used inventory online (all of it if your state doesn't have 30day police holds on bought back items, they only list stuff that can be picked up/shipped immediately on the web). you can search stuff by store through the USED button on Guitarcenter.com

 

[Ascension]

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After looking around and listening to bunch of different clips and speakers I could find locally I just ordered a new WGS ET-90 today to go in my Zinky Velvet combo. I REALLY liked what I heard with the ET 65 and with the 90 being supposedly even deeper in the bottom, tighter and more efficient it was a no brainier. I will keep you posted on how it works out when I get and install it next week.

 

[Ascension]

Re: warehouse guitar speakers?

WGS suggests their models are similar to specific Celestions on their website. I have found them to not be similar IMO. I have a 2X12 cab w/ a WGS Retro 30 and a Reaper HP and another cab with a Celestion V30 and G12H. Celestions are much brighter to my ears, WGS much warmer. I like both pairings, but use the WGS more frequently, so I guess I'd conclude I like the WGS a little more. And the comment above about WGS taking forever to break-in, I must agree with...probably 100 hours at around 95 to 100 db.

As for Celestion 70/80, I like it also, but again, it's brighter than the WGS.

Agree with everything here. In particular that these are NOT clones of the Celestions and that they have their own vibe and sound.
For me I am running several WGS's right now not because they are less $ but because I happen to like them for the tone!