Warmoth Neck

[Xeromus]

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ah right, well im gonna look into prices for guitar techs locally then to see if they can help me out

could the problem be the neck just adjusting to the tension though? i mean when ive tuned to different tunings before (ie, E to Eb), its taken a few days for the neck to settle in properly and get used to it and stop going out of tune.

yesterday was the first time i'd ever strung up the neck or used the trem system

I think it's a combination of the truss rod and nut. It just needs some love. It'll work just fine after.

I don't mind that warmoth doesn't finish the frets and nut completely. That way it can be set up perfectly later. Plus it would add to the cost and build time if they did. If you ever get a maple neck with maple fretboard the finish would need to be removed from the frets too.

 

[shredaholic]

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thanks for the help, although the problems not one i can readily fix myself instantly its put my mind at rest from worrying what it could be

 

[WhoFan]

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I've never been able to keep my Chavel with a non-locking trem in tune with bar use... Best guitar i ever bought for $199!!! That Jackson style headstock seems to only work well with Floyds or hardtail bridges.. Sometimes even with a Floyd one of my other Jacksons that headstock can be a pain... The angle the E string is on my Dinky Reverse pulls the string over to the side of the Floyd nut and if you clamp it down like that it sounds like dung... Every time i unclamp the nut i have to be careful how i lock it again.. Love Jackson headstocks for the looks but they are not the greatest for guitar design... I now have 2 Jackson Revrese Dinky's, 1 Charvel model 1, and one custom guitar with a Jackson headstock...

I think my next Warmoth strat will have a Floyd, a Jackson style headstock and a Fender strat body... Maybe with a Lake Placid blue finnish... Same set up as one of my favourite Canadian guitarist uses.... Kim Mitchell...

WhoFan

 

[Xeromus]

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oh man I completely overlooked that!! That's what the problem most likely is. With the jackson type headstock, jackson guitars either have floyds or hard tails. For a trem without a locking nut to work the way it's supposed to, the strings should go straight through the nut to the tuners as straight as possible. That sharp angle from the tuner to the nut is what is probably binding up. There may be nothing you can do about it if that's the case.

 

[shredaholic]

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I can't see that being the problem really, it shouldn't go out of tune just by playing it for that reason. Warmoth would have advised about something like that, as they let you know about any other compatability problems their parts have.

I talked to Steve Robinson (www.manchesterguitartech.co.uk), and he suggested that the bridge screws may have been too tight. Before the trem just threw it right out of tune, but now it doesnt seem to have any effect. Its just playing normally that puts it out of tune.

This morning I tried placing the neck into another strat body I have, and it looked different when I fitted it. I realised that when I had it in strat body I'm using for this project, the neck was angled upwards slightly, as the neck pocket was not level. I didn't think there was enough room for a pickguard underneath that fretboard overhang, and when I tried it in the other strat body, there was a lot more room between the overhang and the body underneath. This accounts for the fact that no matter how I try set it up, it doesnt feel comfortable (I thought that was my lack of knowledge on truss rods ), but it could account for the tuning issue.

Also, I didn't drill the screw holes for the 6 hole trem perpendicular on the body, and they're not 100% in a straight line.

Im thinking now I should get rid of this mighty mite body, and buy one pre drilled from warmoth with a neck pocket that is 100% certainly going to fit my neck.

 

[MattPete]

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It's either nut binding (it can happen with graphtech nuts) or it's your bridge. At the bridge end, it either binding at the saddles (unlikely) or the bridge won't stay in one place, and is taking one of two 'sets'. Have you tried screwing the trem claw in further so that the trem is completely flush against the body and does not rise at all when bending strings?

 

[shredaholic]

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Have you tried screwing the trem claw in further so that the trem is completely flush against the body and does not rise at all when bending strings?

yep, it seems adding tension (eg more springs) helps the problem, but it still remains. what im planning on doing is ordering a new body from warmoth thats had all the trem holes drilled for me, and that should have the neck pocket routed better than the mighty mite one

 

[shredaholic]

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oh man I completely overlooked that!! That's what the problem most likely is. With the jackson type headstock, jackson guitars either have floyds or hard tails. For a trem without a locking nut to work the way it's supposed to, the strings should go straight through the nut to the tuners as straight as possible. That sharp angle from the tuner to the nut is what is probably binding up. There may be nothing you can do about it if that's the case.

how do you explain this then?

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=JS1_Dinky

 

[Xeromus]

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how do you explain this then?

http://www.jacksonguitars.com/gear/gear.php?partno=JS1_Dinky

Oh well, guess I was wrong.

 

[shredaholic]

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Oh well, guess I was wrong.

I can see the logic behind you thinking that though.

By using process of elimination, I've narrowed the problem down to these points:

• Badly routed neck pocket
• The fact that I routed the 6 bridge holes (shoddy workmanship on my part)
• The nut is binding
• The truss rod isnt set up right
• The trem isnt set up properly

Once I get this new guitar body, the only possible causes left would be naturally fixed if i took it to a guitar tech to be set up. So you guys reckon it'll be ok?