We will fight them in the air....
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JMP/HBE
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
** Just a Historical reference the quote " We will fight them in the air" ect was in reference the the "Battle of Britain" which had no American Aircraft. Your guitar has American markings. Its Historical inaccurate to the Churchill speech .... if anything it has D-Day Invasion markings which was 4 years later.
If your guitar was marked like a Super Marine Spitfire or Hawker Hurricane that would be on target.
** Just a Historical reference the quote " We will fight them in the air" ect was in reference the the "Battle of Britain" which had no American Aircraft. Your guitar has American markings. Its Historical inaccurate to the Churchill speech .... if anything it has D-Day Invasion markings which was 4 years later.
If your guitar was marked like a Super Marine Spitfire or Hawker Hurricane that would be on target.
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Aceman
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So, let me get this straight....
The Iron Maiden song, which has the speech by Churchil in it, talking about the Battle of Britain (which had at best a handful of American flyers), was actually about the British? I am really surprised that a British band would do that....I had NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO idea.
Or, I don't care. Hmmmm.....
** Just a Historical reference the quote " We will fight them in the air" ect was in reference the the "Battle of Britain" which had no American Aircraft. Your guitar has American markings. Its Historical inaccurate to the Churchill speech .... if anything it has D-Day Invasion markings which was 4 years later.
If your guitar was marked like a Super Marine Spitfire or Hawker Hurricane that would be on target.
So, let me get this straight....
The Iron Maiden song, which has the speech by Churchil in it, talking about the Battle of Britain (which had at best a handful of American flyers), was actually about the British? I am really surprised that a British band would do that....I had NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO idea.
Or, I don't care. Hmmmm.....
kramersteen
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
The best part was when you stuck the stickers on.
The best part was when you stuck the stickers on.
metalchurch79
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
And its made in Indonesia, how dare you!
And its made in Indonesia, how dare you!
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
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This is better.
This is better.
metalchurch79
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JMP/HBE
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Battle of Britain was the summer of 1941, D-Day wasn't until June 6th 1944' i lost an Uncle in Germany, Patton's 3rd US ARMY, my Dads, Pappy was poisoned by German Mustard Gas in France 1918 US ARMY. My family has kicked the Germans out of France twice in 100 years, and im a Veteran as well, so is my Dad. Its important to tell the story of the "Greatest Generation" with accuracy to pay homage to the Men, Women & children who fought, died & were Murdered. We owe it to them.
Battle of Britain was the summer of 1941, D-Day wasn't until June 6th 1944' i lost an Uncle in Germany, Patton's 3rd US ARMY, my Dads, Pappy was poisoned by German Mustard Gas in France 1918 US ARMY. My family has kicked the Germans out of France twice in 100 years, and im a Veteran as well, so is my Dad. Its important to tell the story of the "Greatest Generation" with accuracy to pay homage to the Men, Women & children who fought, died & were Murdered. We owe it to them.
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JMP/HBE
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Aceman
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
Take the history lesson to the Soundoff. Cool ≠ Historically Accurate. Cool > Historically Accurate. Especially in a Guitar + Stickers thread!
Take the history lesson to the Soundoff. Cool ≠ Historically Accurate. Cool > Historically Accurate. Especially in a Guitar + Stickers thread!
Demanic
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
I don't really have a dog in this fight, I suppose that Ace could have just as easily done a Spitfire paint and decal sceme. Just as I am sure that someone has probably written a metal tune about D-Day.
It doesn't make sense to generate any more bad blood over this.
But, if you all want to, I won't stand in your way.
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I don't really have a dog in this fight, I suppose that Ace could have just as easily done a Spitfire paint and decal sceme. Just as I am sure that someone has probably written a metal tune about D-Day.
It doesn't make sense to generate any more bad blood over this.
But, if you all want to, I won't stand in your way.
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shupe13
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I'm sorry a fellow veteran may have misunderstood or not appreciate your artistic expression, but... As a veteran, combat veteran, retiree (23 years), great grandson, grandson, son, son-in-law and father of veterans (combat and peace time, WWI to present day Afghanistan), you decorate the hell outta that fiddle and thrash the hell outta the free world. [emoji1591][emoji1308]. Just don't burn my flag...
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I'm sorry a fellow veteran may have misunderstood or not appreciate your artistic expression, but... As a veteran, combat veteran, retiree (23 years), great grandson, grandson, son, son-in-law and father of veterans (combat and peace time, WWI to present day Afghanistan), you decorate the hell outta that fiddle and thrash the hell outta the free world. [emoji1591][emoji1308]. Just don't burn my flag...
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Demanic
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I don't mind if one burns my flag. That is the proper way to dispose of one that has become worn out by display, when done respectfully.
I don't even mind if one burns it disrespectfully in protest, provided that they use plenty of accelerant, and most importantly, wrap themselves in it first.
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I don't mind if one burns my flag. That is the proper way to dispose of one that has become worn out by display, when done respectfully.
I don't even mind if one burns it disrespectfully in protest, provided that they use plenty of accelerant, and most importantly, wrap themselves in it first.
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Demanic
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Re: We will fight them in the air....
As I said before, in not so many words, I don't think that Ace mixed metaphors (so to speak) in order to disrespect Vets.
You decided to pick a fight with him and he fought back.
So you kept it up.
I know, I know, I tend to do the same thing. But the horse is beyond dead, it's pemican.
Just saying.
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See, now I have to say that this statement is in need of qualification. The word "some" needs to be inserted.
Guitars arent more important than people ... THE PRICE OF FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE.
As I said before, in not so many words, I don't think that Ace mixed metaphors (so to speak) in order to disrespect Vets.
You decided to pick a fight with him and he fought back.
So you kept it up.
I know, I know, I tend to do the same thing. But the horse is beyond dead, it's pemican.
Just saying.
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JMP/HBE
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Saying the Battle of Britain was fought by Allied D-Day Aircraft [his guitar markings] is like saying the Camp Fire Girls & the Green Berets are equal. Sorry it just does not compute.
If you want to put Military Markings on your guitar & equate is with a certain Battle or speech at least be Historically accurate.
Its not to much to ask for the people who died doing the dirty work.
If anyone has an issue with that its not my problem.
Civilians, how does that work ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_of_the_Battle_of_Britain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
Saying the Battle of Britain was fought by Allied D-Day Aircraft [his guitar markings] is like saying the Camp Fire Girls & the Green Berets are equal. Sorry it just does not compute.
If you want to put Military Markings on your guitar & equate is with a certain Battle or speech at least be Historically accurate.
Its not to much to ask for the people who died doing the dirty work.
If anyone has an issue with that its not my problem.
Civilians, how does that work ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_of_the_Battle_of_Britain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Britain
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Lake Placid Blues
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Actually American insignia's from 44 can be tied to the Battle of Britain via the 4th Fighter Group. Some Americans flew for the RAF during the BoB and during the battle 70 Squadron was formed as an Eagle Squadron or a squadron that contained American flyers. The Eagle squadrons became the Army Air Force 4th Fighter Group in Sept 1942, and continued to fly Spitfires, now with American markings, for a while until they transitioned to P-47s. By D day they were flying P-51 Mustangs and were one of top scoring fighter groups in the Army Air Forces throughout the war.
Actually American insignia's from 44 can be tied to the Battle of Britain via the 4th Fighter Group. Some Americans flew for the RAF during the BoB and during the battle 70 Squadron was formed as an Eagle Squadron or a squadron that contained American flyers. The Eagle squadrons became the Army Air Force 4th Fighter Group in Sept 1942, and continued to fly Spitfires, now with American markings, for a while until they transitioned to P-47s. By D day they were flying P-51 Mustangs and were one of top scoring fighter groups in the Army Air Forces throughout the war.
JMP/HBE
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Thats the point.
But the distinct Black & white stripes on the Fuselage & Wings were specifically to identify Allied Aircraft during D-Day. The Churchill speech was during the Battle of Britain. Yes trivial but try going to London UK and tell some Brits that the Yanks had helped win the Battle of Britian you're likely to get hurt. Fact is America was late entering the War because they didn't want to get involved at all. It was the British Isle against the 3Rd Reich German War machine. The were out-numbered and out-gunned in Military hardware and still destroyed the Luftwaffe. England did it on their own. Why not glorify British Aircraft instead of American.
Thats the point.
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