Weber Mass

[OlinMusic]

It's been done to death but...

How does it differ from a Hot Plate?

I was really interested bc you can switch Impedance settings, which eliminates need for multiple hot plated. The tone stack has individual controls AND BEST OF ALL - you have CONTINUOUS VOLUME control which is a MAJOR THING FOR ME!

Thoughts?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Weber Mass

First, the tone controls ONLY work when in DI mode.

Other that that if you are familar with attenuators in general and relize you can't turn a 100 Marshall into a practice amp and an attenuator is NOT an outboard master volume you'll love!

I have a 50 watt Mini mass and it's great...it does mess with the tone under heavy attenuation but no more or less than ANY other attenuator and I have tried them all!

 

[Corbic]

Re: Weber Mass

I have a question about the Weber as well...can you put headphones into the DI and play through the headphones? Or is that only used for direct recording?

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Weber Mass

it's only for Di use...the signal is still pretty hot and since there is not volume control you'd blast your ears back to the stone age...however, Weber VST does offer a "headphone tap" that adds a headphone jack to any amp.

 

[kevlar3000]

Re: Weber Mass

I love my Mass 100. Have been useing a Mass for 3 1/2 years now. Never failed me at a gig and has worked very well with my various heads. My new tune, in the tips and clips section, titled, 6 $$$ Trick, is with the Mass. It sounded great in the room, so I opted to keep it engaged while I recorded. The continuous volume control is huge with me too. I do not like stepped volume. Very cool gizmo. I think the new version is more transparent than the previous huge grey box. Much more portable too.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Weber Mass

So it DOES have continuous vol control - which to me IS like an outboard master. See, stepped volume control sucks for me, bc god forbid I am at a place where the answer is not -4 or -8 but rather - 5.535 --- well then, I need the option of choosing that just like I would with ANY volume knob on this planet.

THD techs (WHO ARE GREAT PEOPLE) told me to set the amp volume to make the adjustments. Well on a NMV Marshall that would change the ENTIRE gain and feel.

 

[PUCKBOY99]

Re: Weber Mass

First, the tone controls ONLY work when in DI mode.

Other that that if you are familar with attenuators in general and relize you can't turn a 100 Marshall into a practice amp and an attenuator is NOT an outboard master volume you'll love!

I have a 50 watt Mini mass and it's great...it does mess with the tone under heavy attenuation but no more or less than ANY other attenuator and I have tried them all!

EXACTLY what he said:bigok:

I've got the 100w older "Big Grey Box" that I use with the Edana & it works just fine. Let's you tame it down a bit while still getting the tubes cooking.

I tried it with a few "real" Marshalls though & I had a tough time getting a decent tone....seems to work better with something on the clean side. It was excellent with a Hiwatt & very good with the Edana, which I'm now running clean & using pedals to dirty it up.

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Weber Mass

WAIT! it DOESNT sound as good with Marshalls? I need mine for Marshalls.

 

[PUCKBOY99]

Re: Weber Mass

Stevo & Kevlar don't seem to have problems dialing in a Marshall on theirs....I couldn't find a liveable tone at all; not sure if it was the particular amps, the fact that I use mainly single coils or I have no patience for that type of tweaking :dunno:

 

[the guy who invented fire]

Re: Weber Mass

So it DOES have continuous vol control - which to me IS like an outboard master. See, stepped volume control sucks for me, bc god forbid I am at a place where the answer is not -4 or -8 but rather - 5.535 --- well then, I need the option of choosing that just like I would with ANY volume knob on this planet.

THD techs (WHO ARE GREAT PEOPLE) told me to set the amp volume to make the adjustments. Well on a NMV Marshall that would change the ENTIRE gain and feel.

Ok, the Mass does NOT have the step attenuation like a Dr. Z or a Hot Plate but IT IS NOT like an outboard master volume...if you crank the amp and run the MASS way down it will, just like any othger attenoator, sound like poo but being that it is not done in steps it is more useable to me that the Hot Plate or the Dr. Z.

As for it working on Marshalls it works great on my Sound City and worked just fine with a buddy's DSL 50 watt head...

 

[y2stevo]

Re: Weber Mass

Ok, the Mass does NOT have the step attenuation like a Dr. Z or a Hot Plate but IT IS NOT like an outboard master volume...if you crank the amp and run the MASS way down it will, just like any othger attenoator, sound like poo but being that it is not done in steps it is more useable to me that the Hot Plate or the Dr. Z.

As for it working on Marshalls it works great on my Sound City and worked just fine with a buddy's DSL 50 watt head...

Ditto about it workeing great for A DSL50

 

[OlinMusic]

Re: Weber Mass

Anyone else think this thing sucks with Marshalls?

 

[Stevo]

Re: Weber Mass

The fake speaker helps generate inductance, which is more of a natural load for an amp.

I use it with my 1987x Marshall all of the time. I like it a lot.