Grizzly_Diesel
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
Never played a firebird but they look awesome. Gonna have to get my hands on one.
Never played a firebird but they look awesome. Gonna have to get my hands on one.
Welp. There goes a grand.
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treyhaislip
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I agree! I wanna play one too but haven't found one at any guitar stores I frequent
I agree! I wanna play one too but haven't found one at any guitar stores I frequent
St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I've played a few, though most of them have been Studios (both Epi and Gibson) so they were built differently. Set-neck, rather than neck-thru. Overall, I'd compare the feel to an SG, because of the thin body and the way the strings meet the body, but with a more comfortable/balanced shape. The sounds vary, depending on the pickups, but most traditionally, Firebirds are the Gibson that kinda sounds like a Fender.
I've played a few, though most of them have been Studios (both Epi and Gibson) so they were built differently. Set-neck, rather than neck-thru. Overall, I'd compare the feel to an SG, because of the thin body and the way the strings meet the body, but with a more comfortable/balanced shape. The sounds vary, depending on the pickups, but most traditionally, Firebirds are the Gibson that kinda sounds like a Fender.
treyhaislip
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
IMO, the Firebird looks 1,000 times better than the SG...never cared for the looks of it.
IMO, the Firebird looks 1,000 times better than the SG...never cared for the looks of it.
St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
The SG has its charms, but overall, I would agree. The Firebird looks like an even cooler, more laid back, slightly stoned Jazzmaster.
The SG has its charms, but overall, I would agree. The Firebird looks like an even cooler, more laid back, slightly stoned Jazzmaster.
Snake Aces
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I like the Firebird. I like the SG too though. I am a Les Paul man but Gibson doesn't get enough respect for the rest of their lineup
I like the Firebird. I like the SG too though. I am a Les Paul man but Gibson doesn't get enough respect for the rest of their lineup
treyhaislip
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I think the Firebird and Thunderbird are the best looking guitars Gibson has to offer. Les Pauls are iconic and definitely rock, but I've always wanted a Firebird and Thunderbird.
I think the Firebird and Thunderbird are the best looking guitars Gibson has to offer. Les Pauls are iconic and definitely rock, but I've always wanted a Firebird and Thunderbird.
St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
Well, I've got an LP that I love (it's a 60s Tribute Studio, but F-U, man, it still counts!), and an SG Jr. Project in progress, so obviously I need to complete the set!
Well, I've got an LP that I love (it's a 60s Tribute Studio, but F-U, man, it still counts!), and an SG Jr. Project in progress, so obviously I need to complete the set!
treyhaislip
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Snake Aces
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DrNewcenstein
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
Cheap hardware? Maybe Gibson realized that the lower your prices, the more customers you will get, and you still get the same or better profit at the end of the day?
Cheap hardware? Maybe Gibson realized that the lower your prices, the more customers you will get, and you still get the same or better profit at the end of the day?
St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
It's part of the draw, for sure. It's not like there's never been a tobacco burst Firebird with minibuckers before. But $1100 is a damn good price for one.
It's part of the draw, for sure. It's not like there's never been a tobacco burst Firebird with minibuckers before. But $1100 is a damn good price for one.
St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I don't have any evidence to prove that they're NOT using cheaper hardware, but I also don't see anything in the available information that suggests it, either. They do list the pickups as being "high output ceramic" which isn't necessarily the first thing I think of when I think of traditional Firebird tones, but who knows how high "high" is. And obviously there are plenty of high output ceramic pickups that cost quite a bit. Still, without hearing them, they would be at moderately high risk of replacement if I buy one. Then again, I thought the same thing when I bought my LP and I ended up LOVING those pickups.
I don't have any evidence to prove that they're NOT using cheaper hardware, but I also don't see anything in the available information that suggests it, either. They do list the pickups as being "high output ceramic" which isn't necessarily the first thing I think of when I think of traditional Firebird tones, but who knows how high "high" is. And obviously there are plenty of high output ceramic pickups that cost quite a bit. Still, without hearing them, they would be at moderately high risk of replacement if I buy one. Then again, I thought the same thing when I bought my LP and I ended up LOVING those pickups.
Snake Aces
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Usually I don't like ceramic humbuckers but sometimes, in the right guitar they are just right. Trey on the other hand loves them. So, for some people they really are great. I probably just don't know how to play well enough to get what I'm looking for out of them.
Usually I don't like ceramic humbuckers but sometimes, in the right guitar they are just right. Trey on the other hand loves them. So, for some people they really are great. I probably just don't know how to play well enough to get what I'm looking for out of them.
treyhaislip
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I love them but I've found that for a lot of my electric playing I like the cleans to have just a slight edge/bite to them. Have my Gibson Ceramic set (496R & 500T) up for sale but if they don't sell I will definitely find a use for them down the road.
I love them but I've found that for a lot of my electric playing I like the cleans to have just a slight edge/bite to them. Have my Gibson Ceramic set (496R & 500T) up for sale but if they don't sell I will definitely find a use for them down the road.
voggin
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
I'm really surprised at the return to reasonable pricing, too. I would have thought they'd try to milk the desire for a return to form with at least a modest hike.
I've argued this before, but now I can say it again: the Gibson SG is one of the best guitar buys out there. For a grand, give or take, you get a two hum bucker, 4 control gibby with all the binding and inlay bling, a lot of history and a very versatile guitar. And with Fender's recent price hike, they are even better value (in a traditional USA classic guitar sort of way.)
I'm really surprised at the return to reasonable pricing, too. I would have thought they'd try to milk the desire for a return to form with at least a modest hike.
I've argued this before, but now I can say it again: the Gibson SG is one of the best guitar buys out there. For a grand, give or take, you get a two hum bucker, 4 control gibby with all the binding and inlay bling, a lot of history and a very versatile guitar. And with Fender's recent price hike, they are even better value (in a traditional USA classic guitar sort of way.)
Snake Aces
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St_Genesius
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Re: Welp. There goes a grand.
So you're saying I should buy HER one too? She doesn't even play the Ukulele I bought her!
So you're saying I should buy HER one too? She doesn't even play the Ukulele I bought her!
