Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

El Supremo

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And not going back. Big surprise huh?

Now, I always liked the '59 set in my LPC but some minor challenges would arise when plugged straight into the amp. I also looked at other brands of vintage hot pickups, but the WLH seemed a little more appealing for my needs. And so, after being supplied with the info I needed from the forum and a few days of needless procrastinating I finally ordered them.
Received the Whole Lotta Humbuckers this afternoon. Measured and installed them. Did a quick run through plugging into the low input of my JMP with the same strings to check if everything was fine and to adjust the height. Left the guitar to recuperate from the procedure and made dinner.

Just did a run through with the guitar plugged straight into the high input.

The string to string balance of '59 set wasn't the best for me as the wound strings were kinda bassy and the plain strings too thin for me. When picking hard, I would get an icepicky spike at times. The WLH set had none of this.
Playing some runs from top to bottom, there is a clarity on the wound and a certain wamth on the plain strings that makes everything sounding just that more balanced and fluent in all three positions.

The pickup to pickup balance of the '59 set was a bit off for me. When switching to the neck pickup, I always got hit with an overpowering bass response that could only be solved via stomping an eq pedal or a Tubescreamer.
The neck WLH has a much more balanced eq and so again, playing a run from the first fret up to last and switching pickups midway is a much more fluent transition than before. I'm really impressed with this one as somehow I just keep playing everything on the neck, including rhythms. Last time I did that was (way back in time) on the T-Top neck of my Gibson Firebrand LP.
The WLH set has noticeably more mids, but certainly not in a nasal kinda way. Everythings sounds fuller and contradictory to what one might expect from a fuller sounding pickup, the sound was a lot clearer to. The palm mutes are tight and I can hear every string playing a full chord.

Cleanup is very good. It doesn't get that scooped but woody sound typical of a '59. Instead, the warmth seems to come more from the lower mids whilst retaining articulation with nice harmonic content. The neck has a creamier sound to it but again, still articulate and clear.
Pick attack is defined, responsive to dynamics and has a very distinct sound to it.

So to sum things up:
The Whole Lotta Humbuckers actually have far less in common with the '59 than I expected. It's a whole different vibe altogether and although it was kind of a shock to the system hearing this new set of pickups, it was something that I could get used to very rapidly. It almost sounds like a completely new guitar to me where everything is now more balanced to me tone wise as well as volume wise. That typical scooped woody clean sound isn't there anymore, but the guitar's inherent acoustic qualities do still very much come through with this set of pickups.
Great cleans, excellent definition and the added push in output and mid response make leads really sing in a vocal like manner whilst distorted rhythms crunch just that much more.

I'm off to play. Gonna try some fuzzes and such tomorrow.
Big thanks to everybody who got me up to date on these pickups!
 
Re: Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

I just quoted one of your posts in the BK thread about the WHL and now I read you've got them LOL I just installed one in the bridge of my ash hardtail Strat and I'm diggin the hot vintage vibe this pickup puts out. I was worried it would be be boomy but it's tight and plam mutes better than most of the other pickups I've had in this guitar. So far it's a keeper
 
Re: Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

And not going back. Big surprise huh?

Now, I always liked the '59 set in my LPC but some minor challenges would arise when plugged straight into the amp. I also looked at other brands of vintage hot pickups, but the WLH seemed a little more appealing for my needs. And so, after being supplied with the info I needed from the forum and a few days of needless procrastinating I finally ordered them.
Received the Whole Lotta Humbuckers this afternoon. Measured and installed them. Did a quick run through plugging into the low input of my JMP with the same strings to check if everything was fine and to adjust the height. Left the guitar to recuperate from the procedure and made dinner.

Just did a run through with the guitar plugged straight into the high input.

The string to string balance of '59 set wasn't the best for me as the wound strings were kinda bassy and the plain strings too thin for me. When picking hard, I would get an icepicky spike at times. The WLH set had none of this.
Playing some runs from top to bottom, there is a clarity on the wound and a certain wamth on the plain strings that makes everything sounding just that more balanced and fluent in all three positions.

The pickup to pickup balance of the '59 set was a bit off for me. When switching to the neck pickup, I always got hit with an overpowering bass response that could only be solved via stomping an eq pedal or a Tubescreamer.
The neck WLH has a much more balanced eq and so again, playing a run from the first fret up to last and switching pickups midway is a much more fluent transition than before. I'm really impressed with this one as somehow I just keep playing everything on the neck, including rhythms. Last time I did that was (way back in time) on the T-Top neck of my Gibson Firebrand LP.
The WLH set has noticeably more mids, but certainly not in a nasal kinda way. Everythings sounds fuller and contradictory to what one might expect from a fuller sounding pickup, the sound was a lot clearer to. The palm mutes are tight and I can hear every string playing a full chord.

Cleanup is very good. It doesn't get that scooped but woody sound typical of a '59. Instead, the warmth seems to come more from the lower mids whilst retaining articulation with nice harmonic content. The neck has a creamier sound to it but again, still articulate and clear.
Pick attack is defined, responsive to dynamics and has a very distinct sound to it.

So to sum things up:
The Whole Lotta Humbuckers actually have far less in common with the '59 than I expected. It's a whole different vibe altogether and although it was kind of a shock to the system hearing this new set of pickups, it was something that I could get used to very rapidly. It almost sounds like a completely new guitar to me where everything is now more balanced to me tone wise as well as volume wise. That typical scooped woody clean sound isn't there anymore, but the guitar's inherent acoustic qualities do still very much come through with this set of pickups.
Great cleans, excellent definition and the added push in output and mid response make leads really sing in a vocal like manner whilst distorted rhythms crunch just that much more.

I'm off to play. Gonna try some fuzzes and such tomorrow.
Big thanks to everybody who got me up to date on these pickups!

Great post...I agree with you totally about the 59N always being bass boomy...I've tamed them in the past by going A4 or even cutting the screws at the bottom of the pickup almost flush with the base.In my 335 I went with the Jazz N.Then I find the stock 59B to be too darn toppy and the mids are too scooped out and the bass more prominent because of the A5 magnet..Your experience sounds like something maybe I have been missing with some of my Duncan buckers? I do love the Seths,but the 59s I just never seem 100% happy with.
 
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Nice review. Interesting to see the comparison to the 59. Before I got my WLH's I saw a few reviews saying they were like a 59 with more mids, but they are actually a bit different in the frequencies that are emphasized and how they respond to picking dynamics. I actually like the 59 especially in the neck position. It's a great all round PAF type pickup and I've had good experiences with it in solid mahogany guitars. However the WLHs in a LesPaul is just magic. I hear what you say about the neck pickup being so playable for rhythm work. I have 50s wiring so I get a large range of tones from just the guitars controls and plugged straight into a JTM 45 style single channel amp.
 
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I've never done rhythm work on a neck pickup until I got the WLH set, its just got so many usable tones. I think I said this in my own review, but the 59n has always been a big 'almost' for me, like it sounds great except it is missing just a tiny bit of.. something (mids) which held it back from sounding perfect. If you've ever picked up a 59n and thought 'this sounds ALMOST great', the WLHn is probably the pickup for you.
 
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Great post...I agree with you totally about the 59N always being bass boomy...I've tamed them in the past by going A4 or even cutting the screws at the bottom of the pickup almost flush with the base.In my 335 I went with the Jazz N.Then I find the stock 59B to be too darn toppy and the mids are too scooped out and the bass more prominent because of the A5 magnet..Your experience sounds like something maybe I have been missing with some of my Duncan buckers? I do love the Seths,but the 59s I just never seem 100% happy with.

I feel the '59N does pair well with a hotter pickup like a JB or Distortion. I have one still in my Charvel with a JB and it sounds fantastic there. Don't have a HSS strat anymore, but I suspect the '59B would fare better with a couple of singles when setting the amp eq.

Nice review. Interesting to see the comparison to the 59. Before I got my WLH's I saw a few reviews saying they were like a 59 with more mids, but they are actually a bit different in the frequencies that are emphasized and how they respond to picking dynamics. I actually like the 59 especially in the neck position. It's a great all round PAF type pickup and I've had good experiences with it in solid mahogany guitars. However the WLHs in a LesPaul is just magic. I hear what you say about the neck pickup being so playable for rhythm work. I have 50s wiring so I get a large range of tones from just the guitars controls and plugged straight into a JTM 45 style single channel amp.

50's Wiring here to. So easy to get a good sound out of these with just the basic setup.
 
Re: Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

I feel the '59N does pair well with a hotter pickup like a JB or Distortion. I have one still in my Charvel with a JB and it sounds fantastic there. Don't have a HSS strat anymore, but I suspect the '59B would fare better with a couple of singles when setting the amp eq.



50's Wiring here to. So easy to get a good sound out of these with just the basic setup.

Years ago Lew turned me on to the 50s wiring and I've stuck with it..Both my LP and my SG have it.
 
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Great review! Im loving the WLH set! Almost too much. I find them almost addictive. Hard to stop playing, haha. So many great tones tho. Really sound sweet when rolling down the volume and rawk when wide open. ran em thru my main rig today back to back with my current fav player and the pups in that guit were almost too hot/wild sounding to me now.

I find the 59 to be a good neck pup. Although I prefer to use a 59b in the neck
 
Re: Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

Great review! Im loving the WLH set! Almost too much. I find them almost addictive. Hard to stop playing, haha. So many great tones tho. Really sound sweet when rolling down the volume and rawk when wide open. ran em thru my main rig today back to back with my current fav player and the pups in that guit were almost too hot/wild sounding to me now.

I find the 59 to be a good neck pup. Although I prefer to use a 59b in the neck

I always try to love the stock 59N but it's always to darn woofy for me in the lows..Yet the Seth is perfect..I like the Jazz N more than the 59 these days also.
 
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I feel the '59N does pair well with a hotter pickup like a JB or Distortion.

I agree. My ASAT Deluxe has the '59 neck and the TB-4 bridge with 250K pots and a coil split switch and it is very versatile. Not sure that I could find a better set of pickups for that guitar.

Bill
 
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I agree. My ASAT Deluxe has the '59 neck and the TB-4 bridge with 250K pots and a coil split switch and it is very versatile. Not sure that I could find a better set of pickups for that guitar.

Bill

Oh no not 250k pots and humbuckers! :laugh2:
 
Re: Went from '59 to Whole Lotta Humbuckers

I find the stock 59B to be too darn toppy and the mids are too scooped out and the bass more prominent because of the A5 magnet..Your experience sounds like something maybe I have been missing with some of my Duncan buckers? I do love the Seths,but the 59s I just never seem 100% happy with.

Haven't you put an UOA5 in your '59B? That fixed the EQ for me.
 
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Haven't you put an UOA5 in your '59B? That fixed the EQ for me.

I did Rick but went back to the A2...One of these days I'm switching back to the UOA5 though.The pickup lost it's balls and some output and I agree that the UOA5 is just a better magnet.Normally I Like an A2 bridge bucker(Love the Seth)..The 59B does benefit from the best of the both worlds magnet in the UOA5.Didn't know about this magnet honestly until you told me about it.
 
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