WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

Hey guys,

I am going to put a new speaker in my Blackstar HT-40 Combo. I was planning on putting a Celestion V30 in it, but then I saw the WGS Veteran 30. Do you think its as good as a V30?

The real comparison should be between the Vintage 30 and WGS Retro 30. Retro 30 is very complex and balanced, and still has the Celestion upper mid urgency...which I love.

I am thinking of replacing the V30s in my Bogner with Retro 30s and installing Invaders in my Stone Age 212C. In my THD 212, I am thinking Vet30/ET65.

 

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

Ordering Invaders today to follow up from what I posted above...

 

[guitarkid]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

I actually ended up going with a Retro 30.

 

[CTN]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

^ Good choice. The Retro30 is closer to the Vintage 30 sound than the Vet30 is. crisp highs, great present mids without the spikyness and tight lows.

I believe the Vet30 has a fatter low end/midrange and smoother highs.

 

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

Vintage 30s are still better

 

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

If you want a V30, buy a V30. Certain amps sound killer with a V30. My PWE, Mesa and Bogner all sound amazing with V30s. At rehearsal I had another guitarist play my rig. I moved around the room and it sounded perfect, better than the WGS Vet30/ET65 I had.

 

[ToneScavenger]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

I have my Marshall 2x12 cab loaded with the Veteran 30's and all I can say it's that the diference is not that noticeable compared to the Celestion V30's (MIE). The way I would describe them is that the Veteran 30's sound like an older well broken-in Vintage 30's and the mids although still present, they are not as out there and as a brand new V30, but the difference is slightly noticeable. But a lot also depends on the amp and the cab itself... I love my WGS Vet 30's, but I also loved the V30 that were in the 4x12 Mesa Traditional cab I had before... it's only a very slightly different flavor of the same speaker.

 

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

I never find V30s spikey at all. mine are all thick and smooth.

 

[lNllClK]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

Well, what are you looking for?

Classic Rock? Go for Greenback or equivalent.
Articulate, crunchy, metal? Vintage 30 or equivalent.
Scooped modern metal? G12T-75 or equivalent.
Good all-around balance? G12H30 or equivalent.

That's my take anyway, although I am a big fan of Eminence. The equivalents from top to bottom are the Private Jack, the Governor, the Man-Of-War (I think), and the Wizard. If you get to pick two, I don't think I've heard a better tone than the mix of the Governor and the Wizard.

I thought the legend gb128 was the greenback "clone" from eminence. heard good things about it, supposed to be a nice greenback clone for your money. You think the governor is a greenback type speaker?

edit: or should i say you think the private jack is the gb clone?

 

[papersoul]

Re: WGS Veteran 30 vs. Celestion V30

You can play anything with any of these speakers. The speaker does not define the music, just like a pickup does not define the music. I play killer blues and soft rock with V30s and G12K-100a. I also play heavy hard rock on greenbacks.