Whammy Bars/Floating trems - What's the big deal?

[metalchurch79]

Re: Whammy Bars/Floating trems - What's the big deal?

I do not follow their playing, but yes yes you're right, they do that as well. Their sig Ibanez's had that U-bar shaped attachment, which isnt my thing, but still cool. I like guys who are different and stray away from the norm.
I love floating trems like no other, however Im really in love with having finetuners, so If Id ever get another Gibson (which Im going to) It will either have a Schaller finer tuner tail, or better yet a Kahler 7330 flatmount.

 

[PFDarkside]

Re: Whammy Bars/Floating trems - What's the big deal?

Its really not that bad at all, I play with a light touch anyways. Plus the other benefits (to me) are lower action, less friction so I can play faster and it's easier on me and my guitars. I played 10-46 in C# for years, then went to 9-42's in Eb, then ultimately to 8's. It took some getting used to but it wasnt too bad really. Lots of guys used light guages such as Iommi, KK Downing to name a few.

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Who is Kevin Shields? I thought it said Kevin Sorbo at first. Lol

Oh, I believe you. My style is more ham fisted a la James and various punk rockers. I recently added stiffer springs to my Strat when I went to 10-52, that's my area of comfort.

Kevin Shields is from My Bloody Valentine, he calls his style "glide guitar" where he depresses the jag/Jazzmaster trem with the right hand attack so it kind of glides into the pitch. I was joking that I'd hit the strings and they'd detune from the attack.

 

[toowrongfoo]

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I always wanted a sustainiac for for my trems. That is timeless (and can be used in virtually any occasion)

 

[Demanic]

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In the 80's I had a Carvin with a Kahler. Never quite got the hang of it back then. But then I was trying to transition from Classical to Rock guitar, and a lot of stuff didn't make sense to me, like two note power chords and percussive picking.
A few months ago I scored a Jackson with a licensed Floyd on it (one of the better ones if I am correct). I've been getting quite used to it. I agree that the key word is "tasteful", just as with wah and pinch harmonics.

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[dave74]

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I agree that the key word is "tasteful", just as with wah and pinch harmonics.

Message forwarded to ZW

 

[Demanic]

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Message forwarded to ZW

I like Zack. He might get a little over the top sometimes, but it's part of his schtick.

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[DrNewcenstein]

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ZW tried to corner the market on pinch harmonics. I like them, too, but the guy needs to study Billy Gibbons' technique a lot more to get it right.

As for wang bar antics, you have proper use of the unit, and then you have "wang bar antics". Both have their place, but there is an ever-decreasing place for "wang bar antics". Yes, Paul Gilbert holding the guitar up by the bar and shaking it like a baby works for what he did when he was 16 and just signed to Shrapnel, and fits Adrian Belew's style of music, but for the majority, it doesn't, even with those who are unceremoniously dumped into any of the various sub-categories of the "Metal" genre.

Paired with a Sustainiac-type system, or someone who has absolute mastery over string-based feedback (as opposed to bad wiring), you can craft a solo befitting a song, just as meaningful and heartfelt as any of the best one-note-solos ever recorded.

 

[Demanic]

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Just imagine Neil Young with a Floyd. I think that he's actually gotten pretty crazy with a Bigsby.

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[metalchurch79]

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Just imagine Neil Young with a Floyd. I think that he's actually gotten pretty crazy with a Bigsby.

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Yea really, I agree with you there he does get pretty crazy horse with it some times. I bet he could give Kerry King a run for his money with trem bar madness.

 

[Mincer]

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Here's David Torn giving the TransTrem a workout (like a pedal steel):

Amazing what can happen when all the strings bend in tune in relation to each other.

 

[Obsessive Compulsive]

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^The chord progressions blew my mind. I actually listened to the entire song, which I rarely do. I can care less about Mr. Torn.

 

[Silver]

Re: Whammy Bars/Floating trems - What's the big deal?

Steinberger missed a trick by not getting their trems onto other guitars.

You can get a floyd on anything these days...

 

[Demanic]

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Yea really, I agree with you there he does get pretty crazy horse with it some times. I bet he could give Kerry King a run for his money with trem bar madness.

Now, if he could just tighten up the bass end and scoop some of the mids...

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[Mincer]

Re: Whammy Bars/Floating trems - What's the big deal?

Steinberger missed a trick by not getting their trems onto other guitars.

You can get a floyd on anything these days...

Well, it is difficult as it is designed for double ball strings, and the guitar design (headless) is an integral part of making the mechanism work. I talked to Ned Steinberger and I recall him telling me that other guitars were incompatible with his system. I would think the ability to bend chords in tune could be done with a combination of modeling tech and AutoTune, though. It really is remarkable when you can lower or raise each string at the same rate.