What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

[dave74]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

This is where being able to play fast comes in handy. It’s a fast punkish song to start with. Then when the solo comes what are you going to do? Play slow bluesy bends? That would drag the whole song down.

Just to torture myself I double tracked the solo. Lol it’s fun to do live and successfully segue into the bridge.

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Nice work, I like the song and the tone.
The 16ths in the leads at that tempo are about as fast as I ever go, and that's only if I play daily for awhile so my hands stay relaxed.
If I'm not playing an hour or more on most days I just get instant hand cramps at that speed, plus it sounds terribly struggled.

 

[LLL]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

This thread is funny.

 

[some_dude]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

I can downstroke quarter notes at 220 bpm, which I personally find more challenging than shredding because there’s no way to cheat at it (can’t legato an open E string).

Alternate/economy/sweep picking? No idea, never counted, plus I legato a lot.

I don’t really understand the poll. Whole notes? 8th notes? 16ths?

 

[dave74]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

I was just assuming 16ths with sustained constant alt-picking.

 

[Adieu]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

I don’t really understand the poll. Whole notes? 8th notes? 16ths?

PICKSTROKES PER MINUTE

Since sixteenth notes at 100bmp = quarter notes at 400 bmp = whole notes at 1600 bpm etc etc lol

 

[RorySquier]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

This is where being able to play fast comes in handy. It’s a fast punkish song to start with. Then when the solo comes what are you going to do? Play slow bluesy bends? That would drag the whole song down.

Just to torture myself I double tracked the solo. Lol it’s fun to do live and successfully segue into the bridge.

https://soundcloud.com/davidravenmoon/stop-breathing


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Is that you playing the guitar solo? Now that sounds righteous!:headbang:



;>)/

 

[Lazarus1140]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

I can't play a few hundred succesive, distinct, fretted notes at any speed.

 

[Vasshu the humanoid typhoon]

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[comstox]

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I don't know how much bpm's I can play but I know one thing for sure that it's not 2000 bpm's.

;>)/

Can you imagine what would happen if you tried to have sex that fast?!? :wink: mg: :eyecrazy: Some things are just not meant to be! lolololol

 

[DavidRavenMoon]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

Nice work, I like the song and the tone.
The 16ths in the leads at that tempo are about as fast as I ever go, and that's only if I play daily for awhile so my hands stay relaxed.
If I'm not playing an hour or more on most days I just get instant hand cramps at that speed, plus it sounds terribly struggled.

Thanks. Most of our songs aren’t this fast, so I get to play at a more leisurely pace.

At home I sit and play unplugged while watching TV... mostly just seeing how long I can play a string of 16th notes without tripping over myself. lol.


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[DavidRavenMoon]

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Is that you playing the guitar solo? Now that sounds righteous!:headbang:



;>)/

Yes, thanks. That’s me playing *everything* lol

At the moment we don’t have an actual band. It’s me and my singer. I’m on guitar and the rest of the stuff is on backing tracks. It sounds pretty convincing live.

We just finished recording a whole album, so soon we’ll be looking for a drummer and bass player. [emoji869]


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[Obsessive Compulsive]

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When I was a teenager I thought Adrian Vandenberg and Steve Vai in Whitesnake were the worst matchup, given Steve's flashy acrobatic style in contrast with the more old school Vandenberg.

The older I get the more I realize playing fast doesn't automatically translate to 'good'. Numerous players excel at playing fast licks with NASA precision but musically, they just suck ass. Paul Gilbert for example, his execution is perfect, accurate, zero mistake, but his licks doesn't stray far beyond the blues box, which is BORING as FUK...

 

[Clint 55]

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^ That was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Listen to this solo and if you know anything about theory, the melodic concepts that I can pick up on are: mixolydian mixed with minor blues riffs, straight minor pentatonic, natural minor, harmonic minor, blues scale, major arpeggios, symmetric patterns. Just to name a few that I understand. That definitely wasn't "just a blues box" and is some of the most exciting playing I've ever heard.

 

[Silence Kid]

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I like Paul Gilbert's songs for the most part, but I agree his solos don't engage me like other shred players. Doesn't mean he sucks or doesn't know technique or anything-or that knowing technique & playing fast automatically means you lack 'soul' in any way or whatever. This song is sort of a better example of his stuff to me, but there are still places I feel like his playing misses on the whole in an armchair quarterback sort of way - Not that I can play like him at all.

And I do actually really like the song overall:

 

[Chistopher]

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^ That was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Listen to this solo and if you know anything about theory, the melodic concepts that I can pick up on are: mixolydian mixed with minor blues riffs, straight minor pentatonic, natural minor, harmonic minor, blues scale, major arpeggios, symmetric patterns. Just to name a few that I understand. That definitely wasn't "just a blues box" and is some of the most exciting playing I've ever heard.

Interesting music theory does not equate to interesting music. You can mix every musical concept on the planet and still have a boring tune.

About speed equating to a loss of feeling, I always compare it to hip hop. Sure rapping fast can be cool, but if it's all you do it just means that nobody can understand what you are trying to say. Even if you can hear the minutia of the words or notes, everything just goes by so fast that it lacks the same meaning. Part of this is because of how hard it is to create emphasis in faster passages, since emphasis is created by (1) adding more notes (a chord has more emphasis than two notes, for example) which I find in faster passages just makes it sound more congested than anything, (2) playing faster or slower in contrast to what you are already playing, which is impossible if you are going for pure speed because even if you aren't intentionally hitting your upper limits, its tougher to go into double or half time while making musical sense, and (3) playing louder, which is tough to do while playing fast because at those speeds it requires intense control of picking dynamics, which even a lot of the "big guys" don't have at the level they need to have it at.

 

[Little Pigbacon]

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[Little Pigbacon]

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[Clint 55]

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Interesting music theory does not equate to interesting music. You can mix every musical concept on the planet and still have a boring tune.

That's not boring.

 

[Ben1962]

Re: What bpm can you maintain for a few hundred distinct, fretted notes?

^ That was one of the dumbest things I've ever read. Listen to this solo and if you know anything about theory, the melodic concepts that I can pick up on are: mixolydian mixed with minor blues riffs, straight minor pentatonic, natural minor, harmonic minor, blues scale, major arpeggios, symmetric patterns. Just to name a few that I understand. That definitely wasn't "just a blues box" and is some of the most exciting playing I've ever heard.

New Poll
How many made it to the end of the video?

 

[Ben1962]

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Those example just serve to prove our point. As a runner I find that 70% of people who run marathons do it once just to say they have run a marathon, the other 30% do it because they actually enjoy running long distances. You'll never need to run 26.2 miles in our modern society. The only time my long distance running has ever come in handy was when my car broke down and I had a half hour to run a bit over 4 miles to find a payphone before the mechanic closed for the night.

As for sex, a half in hour is fun, 45 minutes is good fun, anything more than that is exercise.

Is that for a onesome?