What do IRON MAIDEN's guitarists really use on their guitars?

[Empty Pockets]

Re: What do IRON MAIDEN's guitarists really use on their guitars?

I sure miss havin a Strat with Hot Rails.

Normally I like a sloppier player who's more concerned with rocking (i.e. Kerry King or King Buzzo or even Kurt Cobain) but Iron Maiden is all about sweet solos so i'm gonna have to dismiss janick too.

don't those guys have 3-4 guitarists now?

 

[Dru Edwards]

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I sure miss havin a Strat with Hot Rails.

Normally I like a sloppier player who's more concerned with rocking (i.e. Kerry King or King Buzzo or even Kurt Cobain) but Iron Maiden is all about sweet solos so i'm gonna have to dismiss janick too.

don't those guys have 3-4 guitarists now?

3 guitarist (Dave, Adrian & Janick) and Steve's still on bass.

 

[jimbo1]

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Adrian beats Janick by miles. It's not even fair to compare the two. I'M a better guitar player than Janick. Adrian is just a legend. His soloing, and songwriting helped massively to create the best metal band ever.
Janick did nothing to further that legend, all he did was be vaguely entertaining in a "village idiot" type way, while butchering solos and ruining one of the most musical metal bands around.

Dave, well, Dave's Dave. He's contributed very very little in terms of songs, so it's not really fair to compare him to Adrian.
But in terms of soloing, Dave is just incredible. Dave and Adrian together, trading solos - it'll never be beaten. The most classic metal twin guitar team ever.
Janick doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as these two.

What solos on rock in Rio were good by Adrian..................? I'm waiting................ Janick's stuff rocked. I've never heard him miss a note. Anyone with surround sound and that dvd listen to Adrians horrible tone coming from the center channel. And if your better I be seeing you in their next dvd then.........................? Adrian did write good stuff and wasn't bad in the old Maiden but Janick is a step above of late. I've been to 4 concerts near the front, I think I should know. Everyone here just likes Adrian because of his writing contribution and him being in the band so long "classic Maiden" , but as far as tone lately,his technical style and feel, Janick all the way besides Dave of course. By the way if Adrian's better at soloing, why does Janick play more solos of late?

 

[jhale667]

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By the way if Adrian's better at soloing, why does Janick play more solos of late?

By the way, if Adrian's back, why the heck do they even NEED Janick? :chairfall

Unless they're trying to be the Euro-metal equivalent of Skynard these days...:lmao:

JeffB's examples proved it, there's no comparison. It's taste versus wankery...

 

[bigheadood]

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Dave ripped them both. By a mile.

Janick was horrible in that clip, But Adrian wasn't THAT much better.

Tell you the truth, I stopped listening to them after "No Prayer for the Dying".
It was crap, compared to all their previous releases.
If that's when Adrian left, then his contribution cannot be denied, and Janick is a Giant Douche...ha.

 

[Fusion1]

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Weird thing is I sort of lost interest in Maiden since Powerslave. After that with the Live album and Somewhere in Time and Stranger in a Strange Land I was just ho hum about them. Once Adrian left and Jannick Jers was there I was embarrassed for them.

 

[Leveller]

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What solos on rock in Rio were good by Adrian..................? I'm waiting................ Janick's stuff rocked. I've never heard him miss a note. Anyone with surround sound and that dvd listen to Adrians horrible tone coming from the center channel. And if your better I be seeing you in their next dvd then.........................? Adrian did write good stuff and wasn't bad in the old Maiden but Janick is a step above of late. I've been to 4 concerts near the front, I think I should know. Everyone here just likes Adrian because of his writing contribution and him being in the band so long "classic Maiden" , but as far as tone lately,his technical style and feel, Janick all the way besides Dave of course. By the way if Adrian's better at soloing, why does Janick play more solos of late?

I haven't watched RiR in years but why not just listen to the first song? Yeah.

Janick can't even play in time! I can hear his Blackmore influences but he is no Blackmore. I started listening to them a few years back when they had the Dave/H/Janick lineup, so I don't have a bias. Anyway... Opinions Schmopinions. Adrian is one of my favourite guitarists ever and Dave is very good too, but imho Janick doesn't fit in maiden at all!

 

[Diocletian]

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What solos on rock in Rio were good by Adrian..................? I'm waiting................ Janick's stuff rocked. I've never heard him miss a note. Anyone with surround sound and that dvd listen to Adrians horrible tone coming from the center channel. And if your better I be seeing you in their next dvd then.........................? Adrian did write good stuff and wasn't bad in the old Maiden but Janick is a step above of late. I've been to 4 concerts near the front, I think I should know. Everyone here just likes Adrian because of his writing contribution and him being in the band so long "classic Maiden" , but as far as tone lately,his technical style and feel, Janick all the way besides Dave of course. By the way if Adrian's better at soloing, why does Janick play more solos of late?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WddjLLFxoow&feature=related 2:13

That one. You're having a laugh here. You say you've never heard Janick miss a note, which is just completely wrong. He misses more notes than he hits, if you're comparing his live solos to the studio version. His solos sound nothing like they do on the records.
And besides that, Janicks solos on the records suck as well.

 

[zanshin777]

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I dislike their tones at concert completely. Those are crap. However the tones are very different in album recordings. Dave's solos are fluent, sweet, and middy with legatos. Janick plays more agressive. I think every musicians in Maiden have their own styles.

 

[Diocletian]

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I think every musicians in Maiden have their own styles.

Yeah, that's true. It's just that Janick's style is CRAP.

 

[jhale667]

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Dave ripped them both. By a mile.

Always did, no shock there...
Dave Murray was one of my guitar heroes as a teen. Not up there with EVH, Randy Rhoads , George Lynch or John Sykes, but up there. The first time I heard the 1st solo break in "Number of the Beast" I was like, :wrf: and was hooked. Almost in a similar way as the first time I heard "Eruption". Adrian was playing licks even as a kid I could relate to because I'd heard similar things on my sister's Zep albums and whatnot...but this was something completely different...:cool2:

I ran, not walked to my teacher with the LP...this was right about the time I was finding out what "neck pickup" and legato meant...lol :friday:

I too kind of lost interest in them after Somewhere in Time..."Stranger in a Strange Land" is very cool, though..

 

[Diocletian]

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Adrian was playing licks even as a kid I could relate to because I'd heard similar things on my sister's Zep albums and whatnot...but this was something completely different...:cool2:

Dave was doing something new, but Adrian was doing stuff from Zep albums?

Dave, while playing superbly fast yet melodic, always seems less adventurous to me than Adrian. Adrian pushes the boundaries more than Dave.

I don't recall Jimmy Page tapping for a start:

5:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPJw1MzvX4&feature=related

Adrian also tries different tunings and stuff.
I love Dave's soloing, but Adrian is at least as good as him. The two are perfect foils. (Yeah **** off Janick!)

 

[Diocletian]

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What solos on rock in Rio were good by Adrian..................? I'm waiting................ Janick's stuff rocked.

It's nor RiR, but when the heck has Janick EVER played as good as this?/ Never.

5:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPJw...eature=related

 

[jhale667]

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Dave was doing something new, but Adrian was doing stuff from Zep albums?

Dave, while playing superbly fast yet melodic, always seems less adventurous to me than Adrian. Adrian pushes the boundaries more than Dave.

I don't recall Jimmy Page tapping for a start:

5:40 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpPJw1MzvX4&feature=related

Adrian also tries different tunings and stuff.
I love Dave's soloing, but Adrian is at least as good as him. The two are perfect foils. (Yeah **** off Janick!)

Hang on there - I meant in terms of licks I had heard before...not really referring to Zep or tapping or anything of the sort, nor slamming Adrian in any way. I like him, and prefer him vastly to Janick, from what I've heard - just saying I was a big Dave fan as a kid. It just to me seemed he pulled from the more "stock" bag of tricks, while Dave was trying to do his own thing, and was sometimes the more melodic of the two in the process...which was really interesting to me.
Janick may be able to play faster than Adrian (in a flailing sort of way) - it's not necessarily BETTER, in my opinion at least. I think Adrian and Dave are right up there with Glenn Tipton and K.K. Downing among the greatest metal guitar duos of all time. And I'll go ahead and say it...with THAT duo, IMO, Glenn is the better soloist of the two. But so what - they're a great team.

And Page was more about pull-offs than tapping, don't ya think?

 

[tc]

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I teched for Doug for a show, and 'butcher' it he did NOT...:wrf:
Haven't seen the DVD in question, but I find that hard to imagine, even.
Both Doug and John are two of the coolest guys you'd ever want to meet. :notworthy

Janick definitely does not deserved to be mentioned in the same breath as Alrdich and Sykes, nor Murray and Smith, either for that matter...just sayin'...

I'm pretty sure Aldrich is a cool guy. But, you gotta understand, Still of the Night to me is like the pure representation of a good rock song (I'm saying good because I heard the coolest Tom Morello quote the other day...), and I just love everything about that song, but I didn't really like Aldrich's solo. To me, that solo was wankage. Pure pentatonic wankage. They also played Burn though, and that was definitely the highlight of that DVD for me. Killer in every sense. Everyone has their own opinion and I stand by mine.

Which leads me to,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WddjLLFxoow&feature=related 2:13

That one. You're having a laugh here. You say you've never heard Janick miss a note, which is just completely wrong. He misses more notes than he hits, if you're comparing his live solos to the studio version. His solos sound nothing like they do on the records.
And besides that, Janicks solos on the records suck as well.

No one wrote in stone that when it comes to playing live you have to play everything like it is on the record. I have to give Janick that. I don't see anyone dissing Jimmy Page for changing out stuff live and pulling off different solos. As I've said many times before, I DO like Janick, but he's nowhere near Dave for me!!!

 

[jhale667]

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...Still of the Night to me is like the pure representation of a good rock song (I'm saying good because I heard the coolest Tom Morello quote the other day...), and I just love everything about that song, but I didn't really like Aldrich's solo. To me, that solo was wankage. Pure pentatonic wankage. They also played Burn though, and that was definitely the highlight of that DVD for me. Killer in every sense. Everyone has their own opinion and I stand by mine.

I respect that totally. Like I said, haven't seen it. And I am a huge Sykes fan as well. But I will say in my opinion - though I agree with you about the song Still of the Night being pure rock :notworthy sadly IMO, the solo on the original recording is mixed horribly. You can barely tell what Sykes is doing until what I believe to be tremolo bar harmonic-drop (IIRC John confirmed this, told me he used a Charvel Strat w/a Floyd he occasionally used for that solo, and it might still be on his website gear page?), and then the huge climb to the crescendo.
Anyway, point being - I've never seen anyone besides John pull it off exactly. Not that I could tell if that muted part before the harmonic would be note-for-note anyway, y'know? But the night I saw him (Aldrich)do it, it was extremely convincing on the 'audible' part...maybe not perfect, but pretty cool...

Which leads me to,
No one wrote in stone that when it comes to playing live you have to play everything like it is on the record. I have to give Janick that. I don't see anyone dissing Jimmy Page for changing out stuff live and pulling off different solos. As I've said many times before, I DO like Janick, but he's nowhere near Dave for me!!!

True, but it is sort of an unwritten rule that if you're gonna change it, it better be cooler than the recorded version, which sure - maybe it's just me, but not hearin' it from Janick...:lmao: Not bagging on the guy, just not feelin' him. Sorry.
I give you for example one a link to a MySpace fan-page solo-era Sykes recording of Thin Lizzy's 'Cold Sweat' where Sykes changes the solo ever-so slightly but it RIPS (he absolutely destroys on it) :cool2:,

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=216602449

Not to mention Sykes' tone kills on it....but you get my drift....:friday:

 

[alkeys]

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I'll chime in and say enough of the Janick bashing already.

It's great that Maiden has all 3!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm a life long Maiden fan and although of course I love Dave Murray and Adrian Smith (I think Adrian Smith was probably the best of the bunch) I like all 3 Maiden guitarists.

Janick Gers, although not part of the original maiden guitar duo, and even though I'm not really fond of the albums they've done since Fear of the Dark, Janick is one HELL of a guitarist. What Janick brought to Maiden was an awesome stage presence and I'm glad he's in Maiden. Janick has a lot of credibility with his history pre-maiden and was a top player with Gillan and Fish as well.

We should be so lucky that we get to see maiden with all 3 awesome guitarists!!!

 

[JeffB]

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Janick has a lot of credibility with his history pre-maiden and was a top player with Gillan and Fish as well.

Oh C'mon. no-one knew who the F he was until he started playing on Bruce's solo stuff. If ANYONE gave him cred, it was Bruce. And when they needed a quick fill-in after Adrian left, they grabbed Jannick under Bruces recco. of course 2 years later Bruce quit, and when Maiden wanted him back, his condition of returning was Adrian had to come back as well.

I think that says alot.

We should be so lucky that we get to see maiden with all 3 awesome guitarists!!!

I know that I consider myself very lucky hearing a wonderfully muddy live show where everyone ends up sounding the same and treading all over the bass player's tone as well :bigthumb:

 

[alkeys]

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I dunno I'll say Ian Gillan is pretty heavy duty to have on your resume in the credibility department due to Deep Purple and Janick showing up on Fish's first solo album, Vigil in a Wilderness of Mirrors, after he left Marillion was a pretty big deal to anyone in Europe back in 1988/89. Marillion was HUGE in the 80s in Europe and they toured with all kinds of metal bands. Remember those dudes can choose anyone and they chose him.

Yes Adrian is the best of the 3.

As far as 3 guitars- yes I think 3 guitars is way lame live for any band-let alone maiden- it's just too many guitars, but I'd rather see all 3 of them than just Janick and Dave. So many times there's bands like Thin Lizzy, Ozzy, Yes etc... that have so many different band members you're gonna see 1 of the versions when you go see them live and likely you'll not see a lineup you like. It's cool Maiden at least play with all their members so you get to see everyone. Maiden hasn't really released a decent album since 7th son of a 7th son but in 2008 I could never go to an Ozzy show these days and see Jake e. lee ,Tommy Aldridge and Don Airey and Bob Daisley ever again- too bad cuz Ozzy's band's lineup has sucked for over 20 years now.

 

[jimbo1]

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You guys are insulting Iron Maiden as a band by saying Janick sucks......If he was so bad they would have found a better replacment a long time ago. If everyone is saying that I don't know what I'm talking about, your also saying that Bruce, Adrian, Dave, Steve and Nikko also doesn't.