What do the pro's use?

[guitarded]

Re: What do the pro's use?

Just curious, at its lowest setting does the decimator effect tone or trailing notes? When I say effect tone, I mean noticeable? I guess at the end of the day, I'd go with the volume knob approach, but in the event I am playing a really bad place...would like a backup approach.

It is a buffered pedal. Seems pretty transparent to me, but it's gotta be doing changing something. The important thing is my sound is good and quiet with it, and since my amp is dialed in with the decimator on, what am I really losing?

 

[uOpt]

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Wasn't sure where to put this...

I am really curious what the pro's use to quiet 60 cycle hum down? People like Marc Ford, Doyle Bramhall, Chris Robinson, Philip Sayce, etc. Some of these guyz really use a lot of fuzz etc, and you never hear any noise in their performances.

Are they that fast with volume knob? Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Noisegates. Even if they don't use it, their soundmixer might. If it's the mixer he also has a hand free to engage it during the breaks where you'd expect the noise to come through.

Noiseless pickups are also not that rare live.

In the studio you can shield the studio to keep the noise down.

Live albums are also re-mixed, if not re-dubbed, to death. You gotta go bootlegs if you want the real story on what happened there.

 

[j9fd3s]

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Alot of times the electrical supply in the place is out of phase and filters may be needed. I have went to a few places to find the wiring is reverse polarity or no Safety ground, yet the outlet showed it did. Tube amps are notoriuos for humming when the electrial supply is crappy in the house. Older wiring, certain type of lighting , heck we even had a hum when the phone would ring at a certain club.

seems like that, and maybe a power conditioner would help.

dad's got one on his TV and it actually did help the picture

 

[guitarded]

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seems like that, and maybe a power conditioner would help.

dad's got one on his TV and it actually did help the picture

Candlelight

 

[jmh151]

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anytime i've tried to kill the noise of single coils i lost thet one i was after in the first place....

it's weird but if you listen to some of the offical Live WHO albums and DVD's recorded in the 2000's Petes guitar with the Lace Sensor's seems dead quiet... yet when you listen to soundboard recordings from the same tours when he has the OD pedal on and the mid boost on his customized Claptons you can hear it buzz like mad sometimes....

I have a Clapton strat- the Lace Sensors aren't noiseless- I'd say they're noise reduced. Once you add distortion or overdrive to them there's noise- not as much as a single, but not nearly as quiet as some other hum cancelling designs. They do tend to sound better than most hum cancelling designs IMO.

 

[kmcguitars]

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I've always found that the single coil noise is part of the flavor that I'm looking to get from a single coil. My best advise is to use good cables, Be quick w/t the volume knob And pray your not plugged into the same circuit as the florescent lighting.:1: I've tried/Used Lace sensors & EMG's B4 and they did sound great, But a bit to Hi-Fi for my taste. Jeez... It's no wonder most recording engineers HATE ME !:naughty:

 

[WhoFan]

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I have a Clapton strat- the Lace Sensors aren't noiseless- I'd say they're noise reduced. Once you add distortion or overdrive to them there's noise- not as much as a single, but not nearly as quiet as some other hum cancelling designs. They do tend to sound better than most hum cancelling designs IMO.

i love those Lace Sensors in the original issue Claptons... i like them better then the new Fender Noiseless in the latest Clapton Signature model... i have a Gold Lace in the moddle of my Warmoth/Chandler mutt... love it! Oneday i should grab a set before they disappear...

all i originally meant was Pete's rig on offical live albums sounds noise free yet when you listen to raw soundboard recordings there is hum from his rig... they must be doing something in the studio to quiet down the noise...

even the old Live At Leeds album they wrecked with too much noise reduction on the remastered expanded 2 cd set... the Tommy section sounds so dull... if you listen to the soundboard tape of the Leeds concert it's much better sounding with the P90 hum left in...

 

[guitarded]

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I've always found that the single coil noise is part of the flavor that I'm looking to get from a single coil. My best advise is to use good cables, Be quick w/t the volume knob And pray your not plugged into the same circuit as the florescent lighting.:1: I've tried/Used Lace sensors & EMG's B4 and they did sound great, But a bit to Hi-Fi for my taste. Jeez... It's no wonder most recording engineers HATE ME !:naughty:

Any experience with Dimarzio Area PUPs? Have been reading a lot of good reviews on them as a noiseless vintage solution.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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I have a Clapton strat- the Lace Sensors aren't noiseless- I'd say they're noise reduced. Once you add distortion or overdrive to them there's noise- not as much as a single, but not nearly as quiet as some other hum cancelling designs. They do tend to sound better than most hum cancelling designs IMO.

Lace sensors get an undeserved bad rap. I think a lot of it had to do with the look rather than the sound. That's another solution to look at.

 

[jeremy]

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if you want vintage strat tone but no hum, get the duncan classic stack plus. they are fantastic. 95% of the tone and noise free.

ive had gold lace sensors, even a custom set, and they are cool but they arent really vintage strat tone.

 

[WhoFan]

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if you want vintage strat tone but no hum, get the duncan classic stack plus. they are fantastic. 95% of the tone and noise free.

ive had gold lace sensors, even a custom set, and they are cool but they arent really vintage strat tone.

i think thats what i like about the Laces... i'm finding more and more i'm not really a vintage strat PU kind of guy

 

[Lewguitar]

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if you want vintage strat tone but no hum, get the duncan classic stack plus. they are fantastic. 95% of the tone and noise free.

ive had gold lace sensors, even a custom set, and they are cool but they arent really vintage strat tone.

I agree totally.

Lace sensors get an undeserved bad rap. I think a lot of it had to do with the look rather than the sound. That's another solution to look at.

I agree totally. Never understood the bad rap the Gold Lace Sensors got. I've owned two Clapton Strats - sold 'em both but they sounded just fine. Worked on a guitar with new Fender Noiseless Strat pickups recently. That one sounded just fine too. Really, I think most of the negative comments about pickups that I read on the internet are being posted by players who probably can't play.

 

[WhoFan]

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I agree totally.



I agree totally. Never understood the bad rap the Gold Lace Sensors got. I've owned two Clapton Strats - sold 'em both but they sounded just fine. Worked on a guitar with new Fender Noiseless Strat pickups recently. That one sounded just fine too. Really, I think most of the negative comments about pickups that I read on the internet are being posted by players who probably can't play.

or... i'm finding a few amps i own just don't like any strat or tele pu's at all... my Marshall heads seems to only like Humbuckers and my strats and teles sound extremely thin thru them no matter what i do with the dials on the amp... yet thru some of my other amps the strats and tele sound amazing and full.... maybe these amps that make strats and teles sound thin are the reason some players don't get the reason many of us so enjoy our strats and teles... thru the right amps they rock nice!

my Custom Shop strat thru my TSL100 Marshall is just a thin mess.. awful...

 

[jeremy]

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i dont really like the fender noisless offerings. they arent bad but they dont sound like vintage pups and i dont really like the voicing. i can see how some people might like them but they certainly arent for me.

i have noticed that the older lace, especially the gold, are better than the newer ones. not sure why. a buddy of mine had a first year clapton strat and those pups sounded really good even when he took the preamp out

 

[Lewguitar]

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i dont really like the fender noisless offerings. they arent bad but they dont sound like vintage pups and i dont really like the voicing. i can see how some people might like them but they certainly arent for me.

i have noticed that the older lace, especially the gold, are better than the newer ones. not sure why. a buddy of mine had a first year clapton strat and those pups sounded really good even when he took the preamp out

Sure! It's not like I use them or anything. I prefer Seymour's pickups. But they the Fender Noiseless and Lace Sensors are not the garbage that so many posters make them out to be.

Buddy Guy, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton and many, many more make them sound pretty darn good. And if you're a sloppy, untalented player you'll make the finest gear sound like crap - and maybe (wrongfully) blame the gear.

Old guitars do seem to sound better than brand new ones. Some of those first Clapton Strats are getting up there in age. And being nice guitars to begin with, they've just gotten better with age.

 

[j9fd3s]

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Old guitars do seem to sound better than brand new ones. Some of those first Clapton Strats are getting up there in age. And being nice guitars to begin with, they've just gotten better with age.

there seems to be some truth there....

 

[That90'sGuy]

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FAIR WARNING:

The Surh Silent Backplate System does NOT knock out all the noise...the factory system, set up from the facotry in a Suhr guitar it kills about 75-85% of the noise, the aftermarket, over the counter system installed in a Fender or whatever else guitar kills less buzz and hum than that....maybe 50-60% and thats completely normal. I have spoken with the people at Suhr as well as the designer of the system and he assures me that the operation I was getting was completely normal.

Also, you HAVE to use 3 matching polarity pickups, so no RW/RP middle pickup.

If you need dead silent pickups and single coil tone I suggest noiseless single coils. The Duncan Classic Stack Plus is real nice, I use Bardens myself but they are not a traditional sound and they are more money than most noiseless singles.

Just a warning...

Carry on

Agreed. For dead silent single coils, go noiseless. The BPSSC with proper cavity shielding does give you the natural feel though with noise that's comparable to humbuckers.

 

[Lake Placid Blues]

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or... i'm finding a few amps i own just don't like any strat or tele pu's at all... my Marshall heads seems to only like Humbuckers and my strats and teles sound extremely thin thru them no matter what i do with the dials on the amp... yet thru some of my other amps the strats and tele sound amazing and full.... maybe these amps that make strats and teles sound thin are the reason some players don't get the reason many of us so enjoy our strats and teles... thru the right amps they rock nice!

my Custom Shop strat thru my TSL100 Marshall is just a thin mess.. awful...

I can see that. Nonetheless, I've had very good luck using singles in Silver Jubilees and JTM45's.

 

[That90'sGuy]

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or... i'm finding a few amps i own just don't like any strat or tele pu's at all... my Marshall heads seems to only like Humbuckers and my strats and teles sound extremely thin thru them no matter what i do with the dials on the amp... yet thru some of my other amps the strats and tele sound amazing and full.... maybe these amps that make strats and teles sound thin are the reason some players don't get the reason many of us so enjoy our strats and teles... thru the right amps they rock nice!

my Custom Shop strat thru my TSL100 Marshall is just a thin mess.. awful...

I feel this is true myself. My high wattage Bogner head takes to humbuckers better than single coils and my low wattage Vox takes to single coils better than humbuckers. That's a big reason why I have 2 very different sounding amps; between the two styles I can find something that will work well with whatever electric guitar I put through it.

 

[Lewguitar]

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When it comes to single coils I use only Seymour's pickups. I have some Fralins and Rio Grandes and Van Zandts. But they're not in guitars and I'll probably sell them someday soon.

However I do really like Joe Barden's pickups and his rails pickups are humbucking but they do not sound like Seymour's. The Barden's are my favoite single coil size humbuckers.

I have a set in my '54 Tele and a set in my G&L SC-3. Excellent pickups.